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Has anybody seen the recall, down, recall exercise?
#21580 - 12/11/2002 04:57 PM |
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How do you set this up?
Obviously its combining two exercise into one, or is it several? Do you send them away, stop them, sit them, recall ....?
Or do you sit him, leave him walk away, recall down, recall? Inquring minds want to know.
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#21581 - 12/11/2002 07:12 PM |
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First of all you have to have a good solid down on command. You have to teach the down on recall in steps. This is my way. If your dog downs at your side then teach it to down with you standing infront, once that is established I work on building up distance until Im able to put them down while Im standing a good distance away infront. The next step is ,with dog on lead and me infront, I call my dog and keep walking backwards and tell it to down, give a correction if needed, and keep walking backwards,stop and recall the dog. Personally I teach a hand signal with verbal when I teach this,seems to help the dog learn easier, once it is learned I can use hand or verbal command . If your dog knows a down in motion it helps that much more. Its important that your dog has a real understanding what down is first. I also practice random downs, Get the dog excited and playful then "DOWN" and free them up and repeat. Goodluck take it in steps.
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#21582 - 12/11/2002 11:13 PM |
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If you are talking about the drop on recall in the AKC CDX title, the dog must be able to do good, random drops. I did maybe 1-2 drops for every 10 straight recalls. If you overdo the drops, your recall will really slow down because the dog will start anticipating the drop.
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#21583 - 12/13/2002 10:08 AM |
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He does a good down and recall, one at a time.
I can either send him away stop him and down him, recall and here does a semi down, waiting for the recall. Or I can leave him and recall and down and recall him, here he does a better down. But how many downs can I get in say 25 yards distance. I'm getting one, he traveling pretty fast in the recall. Is there a way to slow him down? Does he feel more in control when I send him by his self, is that reason for the semi-down then???
As I'm writing these question I realize that it's probably me again, I'm sitting there with my mouth open because he is able to grasp this stuff so fast, I'm not controlling the session, I'm just enjoying the students accomplishment.
But now I need to know which way is the right way?
Send away or leave him in the down, how to slow him down to get three downs in 25 yrds. Or do I need to get three downs? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#21584 - 12/13/2002 12:57 PM |
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I would say dont try and do to much at first. Somtimes when training a really fast learner its easy to get lulled in to "how easy this is" and not build solid foundations all over the place. One thing Id say do is when ever your dog anticipates something, you need to do something else. If he's doing a half down anticipating the recall, then return to him and start healing. If you havent taught a down in motion, Id do that too, then teach a fast down at a fast pace. As far as slowing down the recall,dont do that! work on getting fast downs.
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#21585 - 12/13/2002 04:46 PM |
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Dave and OldEarth dog thanks
I'll give what you said a try. I'll make him hit the down and work on the quick down while as we are walking in heel. Isn't that adding more to the stew pot? This is sorta new, should try to sink the RDR before changing routine. I understand this should have came first but would this confuse the dog add more on his plate? Or can this be a enhancement to the exercise we are attempting. Its still a down but in a different scenrio. He probably can do it, Let me practice it a couple of times.
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#21586 - 12/13/2002 06:08 PM |
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I commented on doing 1-2 drops for every 10 recalls. David commented on returning to the dog and start heeling. What we are trying to get across, is to vary the exercises. Example-When you leave your dog on a sit. Don't call him every time. MOST times return and release the dog or return and do more healing. When you call the dog, Most times don't drop him. Release or return and release, or return and heel. The worst thing you can do is fall into a pattern. when you vary the exercises, the dog won't anticipate your moves. Dogs make you think. You have to make the dog think. They will figure out a pattern long before you realize you have one.
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The exercise you are attempting is really a grouping of exercises. The sit, the stay, the recall, the down, etc. The dog must be good at all of them before you put any together. Once he knows them all WELL, sequencing them will come. Just don't fall into a set pattern or you will get anticipation.
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#21588 - 12/13/2002 08:14 PM |
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A grouping of exercises is right! So you obviously have the recall down so I would practice that seperate from the down on recall. I would concentrate on the downs in all scenarios and build on that. I would run through all my down excersise before I did down on recall"and never bring the dog all the way in, make him believe the down is the game then return to him" after that is accomplished then you can call him in occasionally.
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#21589 - 12/16/2002 01:07 PM |
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David, Bob and all
Thanks now that the good stuff, and you are right he is anticpating the recall. I need to really work on the moving down and sometime go to him. Alternate the commands to work on the group commands witout anticpation. Why didn't I think of that? Because I'm a FNG (f$%king new guy) to this study, and you guys have been there done that. Thanks again it seem so clear now. I really appreciate you bring me to the light. I can see, it happening. Now lets see if I can make it work.
I'll stay in touch.
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