First and foremost you must learn to read your dog. If the dog is not real succesfull with the ball (meaning grip) then don't use it. At such a young age that dog is still learning so many other things that you need to use what works. Right now your teaching so much more than just grip, like targeting, drive, teaching full mouth grip etc... You don't teach these things seperately, you teach them all together at the same time. If your allowing the dog to bite the string then you need to learn how to play in a way that you don't teach the dog bad targeting habits. The dog is very smart and if you give it a chance to grab that toy it'll do it any way it can.
In reading your dog you don't want to play to long. This is where it is incumbent upon your abilities to read your dog and stop at just the right time so you don't deplete drive but build it for the next session.
I personally haven't had a dog that I have used the orbee with for any length of time because of it's lack of hardness. If you teach that dog to bite on a soft toy it tends to lend to munching on the ball. That is not what you should be teaching. I will start with a softer ball at first and then progress to something harder.
Somebody mentioned I think in a previous post: When training with a ball you are teaching grip but that is not necessarily the primary objective. It is hard to grip a ball because of the way it fits in the mouth. It is very hard to get any teeth in it.
I understand what you are saying but still wanted to comment. When you state that if the dog isn't successful with the ball then don't use it, I don't use it and the last post I just put up states I put it on the shelf and it is collecting dust. I haven't used it since around my last post in this thread. And as for targeting the string. I am sorry if I gave this impression somewhere in this thread again, but my dog never targeted the string. She is 100% about the ball, not the string and targets it very efficiently.
Other then those two points, the information you have given is everything that I have done from since before and after this orbee ball thread. I have a fantastic bond with this dog and find that I read her very well. I just wanted to give a little verification.
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I have since put the orbee ball on the shelf and has been collecting dust since. My girl still is unable to grip it. Granted she hasn't grown since I started this thread, but I know for a fact that her bite is the strongest it has ever been now.
Now Steve, how did you get your dogs onto the actual hose? Is it a cut piece of garden hose? I doubt I will ever use it, but still good to know. My girl is water obsessed but hasn't put two and two together with a hose and water. The biggest problem with this is I have Gardeners at my house at least 5 days a week and I can only imagine how she would act when she saw a hose producing water.
-Lamarr
It's just rubber hose you can buy for washing machines. It's not vinyl or plastic and has no webbing or string reinforcment. It's cut a in lengths of a foot or so and since you hold it at the ends and they bite in the middle I don't think she's going to associate it with watering.
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Re: Orbee ball on a string.
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