Oh yes, lets spoil the puppy. No corrections at all, don't want to hurt puppy's feelings. Give me a break. Look in the pound, too many dogs given up because puppy never learned manners. How come the dogs in up in jail and owners get to have another puppy (let the cycle begin)?

In obedience training I don't correct puppies, I train them but leave corrections for later.

In distracting areas or times when I don't want to start a problem that could affect training I have them on a leash.

I will correct pups for some other things around the house with a scruff shake, but that has nothing to do with obedience training. I don't think you should be using corrections while training obedience till the pup is older.

Ron pointed those who were interested in terminoligy to http://www.schutzhundvillage.com for information on these terms - WRONG !!! - what a pile of crap. Some people try an impress others with big words - those of us who can't spell for shit are not impressed. How could we be? It's hard enough to spell normal words much less what these so called experts try and toss at us.

Here is a quote from one of Armins articles "Dogs who displayed weakly developed arousal and inhibition processes were categorized as "weak types." The name for this type is the melancholic type" Now give me a break !!!!! Thats lawyer talk.

In regard to this thread - there is no such thing as a "positive correction" - although table trainers may diagree. :-)

In terms of puppies being raised for sport work - there are only two things a puppy should be corrected for in the first 8 months of its life: NOT COMING WHEN CALLED and NOT OUTTING WHEN TOLD TO OUT" If the handler finds himself thinking of correcting for anything else - well that comes under HANDLER ERROR or BAD HANDLING or BEING A DUMB ASS.

Sorry should have made myself clear. What I'm talking about is the older pup, 8 months and up. Don't know the word come, let alone sit. I've seen so many people that let junior run wild. My neighbor is one of them. her dog is always in my yard and will not go when called by the owner. Try to tell folks their dog doesn't understand the "come" they say, "But she does fine when she's at home". That's the point, the dog is not at home. Also there is a busy road just down the street and the dog should not be loose, let alone in my yard. Maybe a hefty vet bill will change their minds. Sorry for venting.

Adam : it might be good to keep the notes when replying to a post ,like the one that you have been asking on .As i would like to know who does positive corrections. Peter