Dennis Jones wrote 10/12/2009 09:32 PM teaching retrieve to an older dog #254679 - 10/12/2009 09:32 PM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	Erika's retrieve is really good because of the fundimentals she learned as a puppy. Roxie, her mother, was never taught a formal retrieve altho she is a ball nut. What happens is I'll throw the ball she hauls tail after it and then does a victory trot with it like she would the bite sleeve. I call her in and she comes in solid but will not give up the ball and stays out of reach. She'll out it when I tell her to and I'll pick it up and toss it again and she'll circle me like she has the bite sleeve and then run back to the kennel. I can't get her to understand that ball retieving is not sleeve work and the game is to bring the ball to me so I can throw it again. I've had some good results two balls, she'll come in close then spit the ball out. I want her to hold it so I don't have to bend over. Erika will shove the ball in my face to get me to throw it.
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Melissa Thom wrote 10/12/2009 11:05 PM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Dennis Jones ] #254681 - 10/12/2009 11:05 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	Will she take the ball if you hand it to her? I taught the finish to my lab sitting in a lawn chair with a bag of kibble. I hand her the float (stick, ball, whatever), she hands it back for a kibble. Then try dropping it on the ground, standing up, and add distance.
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Wendy Lefebvre wrote 10/13/2009 10:33 AM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Melissa Thom ] #254697 - 10/13/2009 10:33 AM
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005 Posts: 1271 Loc: Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada Offline	Hey Dennis, have you tried Two-Ball yet? See if she'll bring the other ball in closer for a drop for a second ball or toy? Don't complain....TRAIN!!!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/13/2009 11:00 AM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Dennis Jones ] #254698 - 10/13/2009 11:00 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I teach the last part (releasing the retrieve item to my hand) first. This kind of back-chaining means that much of the command is taught easily, anywhere, including sitting in the living room, before the chain is strung together into the complete behavior. If the link is handing it into my hand, then there is no bending over, either -- the ball goes to wherever my hand is. Maybe you want to always use the same item (the same ball or toy) each time at first so it's reinforced that the retrieve item has a different role than the sleeve ...
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/13/2009 11:13 AM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Melissa Thom ] #254700 - 10/13/2009 11:13 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Melissa Thom Will she take the ball if you hand it to her? I taught the finish to my lab sitting in a lawn chair with a bag of kibble. I hand her the float (stick, ball, whatever), she hands it back for a kibble. Then try dropping it on the ground, standing up, and add distance. Oh. I hadn't seen this one. Pretty much the same thing I posted. But better.
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Wendy Lefebvre wrote 10/14/2009 07:16 AM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Wendy Lefebvre ] #254718 - 10/14/2009 07:16 AM
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005 Posts: 1271 Loc: Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada Offline	Quote: Wendy Lefebvre Hey Dennis, have you tried Two-Ball yet? See if she'll bring the other ball in closer for a drop for a second ball or toy? sorry Dennis, i just re-read your original post and see that, Yes, you have indeed tried 2 ball. Don't complain....TRAIN!!!
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Katie O'Connor wrote 10/14/2009 09:43 AM Re: teaching retrieve to an older dog [Re: Wendy Lefebvre ] #254721 - 10/14/2009 09:43 AM
Katie O'Connor Webboard User Reg: 01-09-2007 Posts: 556 Loc: Upstate NY Offline	If you use a Chuck-it you won't have to bend over or even touch the ball if she'll bring it back and out it at your feet. Katie SG S'Eliana vom Kraftwerk IPO3,AD,CGC,KKL1 Jaya von der Olgameister AD, CGC Pierre, the Poodle!
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