Question on dog health
#256441 - 11/09/2009 01:44 PM |
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While training dogs in a multi-dog environment, is there a possibility of a dog getting any disease if they are playing with the same "Kong ". Should there be any concern for anything being transmitted in this way ??
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#256442 - 11/09/2009 01:55 PM |
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I guess it would depend on the health of the dogs, vaccinations, etc.
Bordetella is one that I'm pretty sure can be transmitted via saliva.
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#256443 - 11/09/2009 01:55 PM |
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While training dogs in a multi-dog environment, is there a possibility of a dog getting any disease if they are playing with the same "Kong ". Should there be any concern for anything being transmitted in this way ??
The same dogs who sniff butts, treat kitty litter boxes like buffets, and sample roadkill? Those dogs? (JKY)
Can you explain the situation with more detail, though? (Indoors? Known dogs? Transient?) Of course there are diseases that are transmitted dog-to-dog via saliva (and other body stuff), including canine adenovirus and rabies. But the other transmission routes are still there whether there's a Kong or not. JMO.
Off the top of my head, I think the dogfight potential of having a toy in a group of relatively strange dogs would concern me more than the saliva on the toy. Again JMO.
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#256452 - 11/09/2009 04:32 PM |
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The reason for my question is to find out whether or not, each dog that you train using a Kong as a reward toy, should have his/her own Kong or can one be used to play with several individual dogs using the same one. This scenarion involves Shepherd Dogs in a kennel facility with approx 10-12 dogs in a clean and healthy environment.
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#256453 - 11/09/2009 04:38 PM |
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The reason for my question is to find out whether or not, each dog that you train using a Kong as a reward toy, should have his/her own Kong or can one be used to play with several individual dogs using the same one. This scenarion involves Shepherd Dogs in a kennel facility with approx 10-12 dogs in a clean and healthy environment.
If you meant that the Kong would be used with one dog at a time in separate sessions, I admit that I'd probably do it with not much hesitation because of the many remaining ways for the dogs to swap bugs.
That is, there are so many ways for the dogs to swap bugs without the Kong that I would probably not put much emphasis on the Kong.
But that's JMO.
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#256454 - 11/09/2009 04:40 PM |
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my dog only, I wouldn't share toys or rewards with dogs just passing thru a kennel.
Reminds me of the heated dicussion I had about the club bite sleeve and vaccinations. at the club all the dogs use the same bite sleeves and tugs, my concern was some very knowledgeable and respected trainers believe Vacs cause more harm then good. I have a limited knowledge of biology so I take my vet's suggestion on the recommended vacs.
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#256455 - 11/09/2009 04:43 PM |
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my dog only, I wouldn't share toys or rewards with dogs just passing thru a kennel.
Oh, 100% ditto on that.
I have separate shoes and even pants for kennel working (shelter) that do not come into my house to my dogs.
But among a group who already live together, I kind of doubt that a shared Kong is going to present any more of a germ challenge than already exists just by virtue of their shared quarters. But JMO ....
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#256492 - 11/09/2009 09:29 PM |
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I also work at a boarding kennel and have different clothes and shoes I wear at home.
There are different levels of threat I see with sharing of toys. Assuming that these dogs are vaccinated against the big three being rabies, parvo, and distemper would be as follows. What I'm concerned about is fluid transmission of these problems.
My number 1 concern would be brucellosis. It's not just an STD and has consequences that are far reaching in that your dog may be infected and spreading the disease for years and you might not know it and the possibility that it can spread to people. The only responsible treatment imo is euthanasia.
#2 would be Canine hepatitis although it is usually vaccinated for.
My #3 albeit less of a concern would be canine herpes virus. I've known several breeders who have brought home this virus and paid for it in the complete loss of litters.
My final big concern would be canine influenza. Although the mortality rate is low the secondary infections are brutal.
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#256500 - 11/10/2009 09:34 AM |
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I see in this discussion the many views and opinions that carry a lot of weight. I also see that to some it carries through even having different clothing for each dog, if I read this correctly. I appreciate the comments that have surfaced as they all have merit now I am wondering what a Vet's view would be on this same topic. This is an a learning experience for me and the more I learn the more I am prepared. Tks for all your help.
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#256503 - 11/10/2009 09:52 AM |
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The clothing and shoes thing as mentioned in this thread was really more about going back and forth from a kennel where there is a transient population into one's home pack or another kennel's population.
That should apply, IMO, no matter what you decide to do within one kennel's population.
You might also want to add your questions to your list for your next vet visit.
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