Jose Miguel Gome Webboard User Reg: 11-11-2008
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Hi people.
I just come with a doubt watching the Food DVD with Michael Ellis.
In the beggining of the engagement chapter he makes a brief reference to managing other behaviour while the dog is still not engaged by using pinch collar, haltis, etc.
I can't understand clearly what he says in that specif part (english is not my mother language). Could you give me a help please.
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007
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Jose, I'm going from memory here, so this may or may not be what you are referring to.
What M.Ellis was saying is that he does not like to use prongs when doing engagement or other training. What he says is 'use your voice', not the collar to redirect the dog back to you.
But he also mentions that for exercise purposes (ie small woman walking a big dog) use the prong if you need to, to maintain control.
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Watch the heeling portion and putting focus on command section.
What he is saying is that the dog will want to be close to where the reward comes from so in heeling if you produce a reward infront or on your right. your dog wants to be closer to the source of the reward.
same thing for a front or recall. you always want the reward to be in front of you (on your center line.)
I can't find a video of him doing that, but here is a video from the food dvd where he shows a pup how to stand from a sit. the reward/lure placement is very important because it changes the way the dog learns to stand from a sit. Micheal is attempting to get him to stand with zero forward movement.
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What he is saying is that the dog will want to be close to where the reward comes from so in heeling if you produce a reward in front or on your right your dog will move in front of you slowly after many repetitions of rewarding him that way
Lori Hall Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2007
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Quote: jose miguel gome
Hi people.
I just come with a doubt watching the Food DVD with Michael Ellis.
In the beggining of the engagement chapter he makes a brief reference to managing other behaviour while the dog is still not engaged by using pinch collar, haltis, etc.
I can't understand clearly what he says in that specif part (english is not my mother language). Could you give me a help please.
Thank you.
I just watched that this weekend, and rewound it at that point to listen to what he said twice! He was saying that he knows it takes a while to train the dog in steps - first engagement to make sure your dog is paying attention to you, then starting with sit, down, stand, etc. So it could be a while before you can teach walking on a leash/heel with food, and in the meantime he knows you have to walk your dog for exercise, etc.. So he says, "I'm a realist, I know you don't always have time to teach walking on a leash this way, so I'm not opposed to grabbing a prong collar or head halter in order to have control over a dog that pulls on walks, so that you can walk them until you get them trained correctly."
I payed attention to that part because I'm in that situation!
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