Michael West Webboard User Reg: 05-23-2007
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I have been wondering if anyone has ever tried making their own hidden sleeve?
I am asking because me an another handler are attempting too figure something out and see if we can make one our self's. The reason I say make one instead of go out and buy one is because we want something thinner and more flexible then what is out there.
(This is not a shot at what is available on this site)
So my question for any Handler or Trainer that does Bitework with the goal of the dog being able to get a real world bite:
-What is it you look for in a hidden Sleeve?
-Is it something you would use all the time? Or something you would only use to "proof" the dog in scenarios and realistic exercises?
-What material would you like to see used? (outside?Inside?)
David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Quote: michael west
I have been wondering if anyone has ever tried making their own hidden sleeve?
-What is it you look for in a hidden Sleeve?
-Is it something you would use all the time? Or something you would only use to "proof" the dog in scenarios and realistic exercises?
-What material would you like to see used? (outside?Inside?)
I've found used fire hose makes an excellant hidden sleeve. It can be kept relatively thin and is easily concealed under a loose jacket or large shirt. The rubber lined, canvas type fire line is what I'm referring too. Cut it strips, wrap it around the arm. Place about 1/2 inch of cloth strips on top. It's also good to wear a compression sleeve under it, because you will feel a lot of pressure. The old leather lined canvas sleeves the military used to use are also excellant hidden sleeves. We use them a lot, particularly when conducting on-duty scenarios.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
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I've found used fire hose makes an excellant hidden sleeve. It can be kept relatively thin and is easily concealed under a loose jacket or large shirt. The rubber lined, canvas type fire line is what I'm referring too. Cut it strips, wrap it around the arm. Place about 1/2 inch of cloth strips on top. It's also good to wear a compression sleeve under it, because you will feel a lot of pressure. The old leather lined canvas sleeves the military used to use are also excellant hidden sleeves. We use them a lot, particularly when conducting on-duty scenarios.
DFrost
Cant say I have used fire hoses before but I have heard about them being used. I am planning on stopping by the fire department today and seeing if they have any old hoses they dont need anymore.
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The rubber lined, canvas type fire line is what I'm referring too. Cut it strips, wrap it around the arm.
DFrost
Not quite sure I understand this part. I have a picture in my mind but I would love to hear you explain it a bit more to make sure I have it right in my head.
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Yes sir, two ways of doing this. 1. If you have hose with enough diameter, split it long ways. punch holes where it is split and lace it with parachute cord. At least that is what we always used. 2. if the diameter is too small, cut the hose in a continual strip (like a spiral cut) about 3 inches wide. Wrap the arm like you would with an Ace bandage. then wrap cloth on top of that. The cloth gives the teeth something to bite into. The hose if very difficult to penetrate.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
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