Quote: aimee pochron

Not sure if it is just my limited experience but the shaped behaviors seem to be done with more energy than the lured.

Another perk I've noticed is that shaped behaviors are usually done with a whole lot more eye contact - with luring, the dog is focused on your hand, or the treat, or whatever is guiding it - with shaping, they're constantly looking to your eyes for approval (at least Oscar does, and unless it's a trick that causes his eyes to be obscured).

~Natalya

http://www.fannygott.com/some-of-my-thoughts-on-shaping and her videos - fascinating! Tried it with Suzie today ( the fearful/reactive one), the results were amazing. We really concentrated on letting it happen instead of "expecting" a behavior. Most often she just wants to walk on hind legs prettily good Suz, yes!

 Quote: ana kozlowsky

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http://www.fannygott.com/some-of-my-thoughts-on-shaping and her videos - fascinating! Tried it with Suzie today ( the fearful/reactive one), the results were amazing. We really concentrated on letting it happen instead of "expecting" a behavior. Most often she just wants to walk on hind legs prettily good Suz, yes!

Wonderful!!!

I sat in a class last night at a friend's new indoor training center. I am starting Flash in a intro to nose work class there next week and wanted to see other trainers there. The trainer there was doing foundation work for agility (which I have been through with an agility club with my 2 males) and it was interesting to see her using free shaping solely in her class last night. She didn't do the best explaining it because a lot of people still were luring, but it was very interesting to see. I have begun using it on my dogs. The Husky x seems to be real good at it, thinking on her own and offering behaviors. There is potential in the boys, they started offering up behaviors as well. I was doing some box work (101 things to do with a box type stuff) and they seemed to enjoy trying to figure things out for themselves.

I am thinking with the more advanced behaviors that shaping will need to be combined with luring otherwise it could take forever. I was speaking to the trainer last night and she agreed. She has a winning agility dog and a green dog she is training in agility and it was great to see how they think for themselves.

I was amazed today! I haven´t had much success with FS with dogs that haven´t done it since puppyhood so I was dreading doing it with my youngster. But I thought I have to get at it eventually and better sooner than later and was prepared to be frustrated but nothing like that!

She did take a little time to get that I am not showing her what to do this time and at first I marked every movement and after just few marks she started moving around with a really interested look on her face. "Can I make you mark if I do THIS? But what about THIS? And THIS?" So I put a little box on the ground to just try if she would do anything and when she rarely ever interacts with objects (I have been teaching her that I am the single most interesting thing in the universe ) she was touching it in no time. I ended the session when she obviously got the fact that I wanted her to put her nose in the box.

I am really encouraged to continue it with her. I guess she is a natural. And I now get that maybe some dogs just aren´t as good at it, no matter the backround.