Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#300970 - 10/28/2010 07:35 PM |
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Hello,
My opinion is that prong collars can be very useful tools if not abused and used in the correct manner. Also, you have to make sure of the type as well.. I personnally like Herm Springer ones because the prongs are dulled and rounded, where as if you went to like a pet smart, or other chain pet store, they are likely to be more pointy.. so if and when you decide to use them, just watch what you are buying.
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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#301017 - 10/28/2010 11:26 PM |
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He's already got the prong collars for the crew, and dominant dog collars.
George- you do know that the dominant dog collar is a great back-up choice for the prong collar, right? Even the best HS collars have come 'un-done'. I choose not to use the DD collar, I use a tab clipped to the leash, and to his flat collar. It's all personal choice, but you just want to make sure and have a back-up, just in case!
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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#301019 - 10/28/2010 11:39 PM |
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I choose not to use the DD collar, I use a tab clipped to the leash, and to his flat collar. I like this idea, got to try it.
Theoretically, if the prong comes undone, the dog might put all his force into the DD, which might do some damage. Still better than a dog lost...
My problem with putting both flat and prong together on my dogs was that the prong slid over/caught the flat = mess. Had to make it too tight to prevent that.
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
[Re: Ana Kozlowsky ]
#301047 - 10/29/2010 11:08 AM |
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I choose not to use the DD collar, I use a tab clipped to the leash, and to his flat collar. I like this idea, got to try it.
My problem with putting both flat and prong together on my dogs was that the prong slid over/caught the flat = mess. Had to make it too tight to prevent that.
Yes, but your prong should be high and tight enough where a flat collar would not interfere anyway. Koenig's regular leather collar sits low (loose) on his neck, where if a prong is adjusted properly, it will sit just below the ears, and under the jaw.
http://leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm
Link to a pic of Koenig modeling his set up. Prong, leather tab attached to the flat collar, leash clipped to the other end of the leather tab, and to the prong collar.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/turnnburn52984/Koenig/photo.jpg
My tab isn't from leerburg, but they sell them!
http://leerburg.com/pulltab.htm
Edited by Kelly Byrd (10/29/2010 11:14 AM)
Edit reason: forgot to type anything! Whoops!
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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#301073 - 10/29/2010 02:51 PM |
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We had our first full-length walk (45 mins or so) using prong collars. They did fine. On two of my dogs (Finnish Spitz and her offspring) the hair is very thick around their necks. But, I must've gotten the size correct since they did fine. The little 12 pound dog is a different situation.
I've reviewed the "how to" video and read a bunch. But, I still don't think I have the fit correct on the smallest dog. When I put on his mini-prong it feels fairly snug. As we walk the collar moves down his neck a little - not all the way down to his shoulders but definitely not right behind the ears. So, we stop every 10 minutes or so and I shimmy the collar up behind his ears. Also, he yelped three times before our walk was over. He started by trying run and pull...
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
[Re: George Tate ]
#301076 - 10/29/2010 03:01 PM |
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Do you have it on the live ring, or the dead ring?
Depending on what type of prong you bought (fancy clip kind, or the basic old school prong) you should have 2 rings.... by clipping your leash to only one ring the prong is considered 'live' and you'll get a stronger correction. I've read you always want to start your dogs on the 'dead' ring (clipping to both rings, so there is no cinching action when the leash it taut)
I've had a prong collar for my DS for just over a month now, and as of yet, have never used the 'live' ring on him. It's plenty effective on the dead ring.
You might try removing another link from your smallest dogs prong. I know it took me awhile to get a fit I was happy with on my dog, and I'm still considering getting a mini-prong for him to get a perfect fit. I have mine set tight enough where I can slip 1 finger under 2 of the prongs comfortably... it's pretty dang tight, but if I add another link, it slips down, and rotates during our training. I've had to do the stop every 10 min thing, and hike it back up. I got real sick of that, real fast!
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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#301082 - 10/29/2010 03:16 PM |
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heh,heh....I was using the dead ring thing and it seemed to be plenty of correction for all of them. The little guy seems to be very sensitive. BUT, we went near a house that has 4 dogs that go crazy when we walk by and - for the first time every - Ribbit DID NOT go crazy! Yea! I don't think I will take them out on walks without the prong for a while!
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Re: Prong and Dominant Dog Collars? Both?
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#301089 - 10/29/2010 04:49 PM |
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They are a great tool, aren't they! I was once a skeptic.... now I'm sold- lock, stock and barrel. Love it. So does my dog- he knows if he gets it on, we're going to have FUN, so it's a win-win situation!
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