Brad Higgs Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2010
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So I've watched the streaming videos of Michael Ellis (DVD's are on their way)and he says to push the food at the dog about level with the back in a sit to push the dog into a stand, the problem I've got is my girl will fold herself in 1/2 trying to push her head back far enough to get at the food until she falls over no way does that butt come off the ground, am I missing something or just doing it wrong totally any help would be much appreciated. She's almost 12 months and was started training the old fashion way until I discovered this site!!
I have the same problem Brad. After I video'd myself, and had a leerburg buddy watch it, she noticed that Koenig seemed reluctant to move backwards. Since then, we've taught back, and still not had any luck with the was ME teaches the stand.
I'm using almost exactly the same technique Aaron is using with Danke. I put Koenig on a bench (park benches work great, it leaves minimal room to move away, and is great for encouraging a straight down. I ask Koenig to Platz, and then touch under his neck (at the collar level) and at his belly (just in front of his rear legs) with slight pressure, and this is enough to get him to stand.
Good luck! We struggle with it too, but I've just realized that the ME way is not going to work for us is this situation for whatever reason. I'm just not that good.
I've used one also Connie- a park bench is right out my back door though. Way easier then pulling a 2' x10' outta the storage closet.
Koenig's first platz on a bench was QUITE entertaining. He tried to cock his hips to the side (which is weird, normally he's very straight) and his butt fell/slipped off, and he half way laid there, looking at me like 'uhh, Mom? Is THIS what you wanted?' I about peed my pants I laughed at him so hard. Thats when we used to board on the ground for a few days instead... no more dumb dog falling all over.
Angie Stark Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2009
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Once I taught mine the stand, then I put him on a small box and did all the changes of position. On our walk we go by a park that has horseshoe pits and I used them too...put him behind the back wall of the pit. Ive seen people do with with just tape on the floor too. Good Luck.
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