I'm hoping that those of you who have this DVD can help me out. I'm thinking of getting it, since I'm starting to train the retrieve to both of my dogs, but I'm wondering.....is this DVD geared towards competition in the Schutzhund/Mondio/other ringsport venues? Or is it generic enough that it could be useful for someone like me who competes in AKC obedience?
I just don't know enough about Schutzhund or Mondio to know if there are huge differences in what the dog is asked to do in trial and if those differences require a different training style, etc. I do know there is a difference in the size and style of dumbells used, but I don't think that is really an issue.
I am definitely interested in training a motivational retrieve, not a forced retrieve. Any insights would be appreciated.
eta: I already have ME's food, tug and heel DVDs and love them.
Edited by Cheri Grissom (01/22/2011 03:13 PM)
Edit reason: add eta
The Ellis retrieve DVD is an excellent one. The only difference between retrieving for fun or for competition is how formal you make it. That has nothing to do with teaching the basics of the retrieve.
work on the retrieve, the front, the out all as individual exercises. When each is good, just put them together. It's amazing how easy training can be when you break it down in small behaviors.
Points wise, AKC is probably the most demanding as to exact behaviors but a good retrieve is a good retrieve!
Thanks, Barb and Bob, for the replies. My hunch was that teaching the basics of retrieving would be the same across disciplines. I'm not under any illusions here, though. Teaching a dog a proper, competition type retrieve is something new for me, but I'm hoping it's at least half as easy as you make it sound, Bob!
I'll be ordering the DVD in the next couple of days.
Nice to hear the recommendations.My copy has just arrived but don't think I will need it until the dog has finished teething.came with the 4DVD offer,
Interested to know At what age does Michael Ellis start his dogs
I don't think there is a to early to teach the dog marker training basics. Once that understanding is made the behaviors are what every your capable of doing with the dog.
Sorry,Bob ,didn't make myself clear.Pup has been on marker training since 8 weeks and its going fine.My question only related to the start of retrieve training.Teething at the moment so don't want to put him off.
He starts them young - 9 weeks or so. At that age he is just playing games/luring and imprinting the behavior of bringing things back or just coming back. In the DVD he shows the handler just engaging the dog and tossing a treat several feet away - the puppy runs to get the treat and then comes running back to get another treat when he gets back to the handler. He isn't carrying anything - just learning that running back to the handler is good and running toward something the handler tosses is good too!
You could easily be doing this with your dog while teething or using a soft tug, stuffed toy, etc... Don't go for anything formal - just the learning of going after something and coming back to you with it!
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He isn't carrying anything - just learning that running back to the handler is good and running toward something the handler tosses is good too! 
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