Tammy, Yeah accourding to the city law, the PBT was running at large. What happened that day was 2 strikes aginst the owner and dog. I think the freebie doesn't count if the dog causes other injures but only if the dog was being aggressive. However, the owner is still liable for the injuries caused by the dog.

CJ, The Whinning is something he does when he's frustrated in general. Its not high pitched nervous anxious whining, its low pictched drivey obsessed whining. He started doing it towards other dogs before I got him. In the begining I redirected his attntion to me for a tug or food. I would simply engage him and after a while he'd even automaticaly look at me when seeing another dog. I even took him to dog shows and worked with him in close proximity to other dogs. He was nuetral...and now around people, aproachable, neutral, non reactive.

Here are incidents he has been in (in order I think) As you will notice, I do not live in a good area. And also, my dog has never atacked another dog.

-short lived non-blood drawing fight ith friend's coonhound (I used to work at a dog daycare place, don't even get me started, I was uncomfortable with most of they did but was still somewhat brainwashed by it). We never let them together again (my descision) I never let him "say hi" or play ith other dogs after that. That's when I read the leerburg page on dog park and adopted the ideas.

-walking my dog at the park and saw a loose lab, turned and went the other way...lab ran after us aggressively, I put him in a sit or down and stood in front of him, I yelled at the lab and kicked it, my dog broke his down and all I could do was hold onto his collar and kick the lab until it backed off. The lab owner complained at me for kicking and I explained why in a not so nice way. Afterwards I observed the lab owner with his dog on a leash and prong collar. At least he learned.

-Another stupid dog owner had 2 hounds off lead at the beach. They were easier to scare away, my dog maintined his stay. The owner was a complete jerk and didn't even care. I told him the beach has a leash rule and he cussed me and started walking towards me in a threatening manner. I told Logan to watch him and the guy changed his mind about assaulting me. I called the police and they did nothing and the animal control wrote him a ticket for dogs running loose at the park.

-then I walking walking down the street one night and somebody sicked a pitbull on Logan. I made him sit behind me and I yelled at the dog and it backed off.

-the pitbull attack. This when his watching of other dogs intensified. I had that undercontrol, but everytime we get charged by an aggressive or loose dog, its a problem. I can't say I blame him for watching.

I have corrected him for the watching and whining as I have said. I assumed it was what you do for that but I didn't like it at all.

This is what would happen if I did nothing and a person with their dog approached: Logan would alert, ears up and watch/whine then if the dog got closer (10 ft away) he would start pulling and standing supertall, tail forced up. If the dog was aggessive/lunging and passing by he would do the same, stand tall but ears down and stare...dog got too close he'd probably nail him. I saw a guy with 2 pits lunging at him, the guy proud if it. I saw them and crossed the road...they kept lunging and Logan walked nicely but watched with his head up but ears down, defensively. I didn't correct him, I really can't blame him.

What I have done since with him is play tug with him when another dog is around. It can take a second to get him ingaged but once he is, the dog doesn't exist...unless it bark and lunges. Then work to reengage him, ripping the tug out of his mouth or whatever. I do give a correction when he stops and tries to watch but not harsh, its just enough to get him refocused...should I not? Sometimes he tries to watch the dog and tug at the same time even. Bouncing a ball for him to catch works too.

So, should I work to engage him around the dog distractions and get that working real well, and then apply corrections later? I correct him for trying to go over there, but not for watching anymore, as long as he stays w/ me and is responsive to commands like sit, look, come...I don't correct.

As for defense: pepper spray is impossible, its always windy/breezy. I think a stick would be great. Firearms are also legal here, but most of where I work him at, its forbidden (school grounds).

I realized I forgot about the JRT "attack" on Logan after posting. Well it was a jinx because 2 or 3 days ago I was about to do some training on this soccer field. I heard a kid shouting and looked up to see what it was. He was chasing the JRT frantically and it was headed our way. I was next to a fence with Logan and watched as the dog ambled towards from behind a perpendicular (baseball) fence. I put him in a downstay and walked 50 feet to where the fence turns. The JRT came around and I blocked him saying "where are you going?" He stopped and I picked him up. I kept looking at Logan, who was holding his stay perfectly. He didn't budge at all. I gave the JRT to the kid who thanked me a thousand times.

All I can say is, I am so glad I have worked with him a lot lately on his stays! I have even been making him do stays on benches, tables, bleachers...anywhere difficult.