Has anyone here went through the leerburg program from the groundwork and up with an fearful/ human aggressive dog? I would like to hear of your experience of going through that process.
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im at wits end and every trainer i talk to including vets says to put her down. im at the end of the rope
Trainers who actually assessed the dog in person and said to put her down?
Yes, 3 behaviorists, 3 trainers that saw her in person
What were the three avals? (I mean, how many said genetically fearful, how many said dominant-aggressive, etc.)?
Were all three experienced with aggression (of all types)?
We have to factor in the original shelter, where dogs are evaluated on intake and/or before being adopted out, because that eval apparently was obviously positive (or you would not have the dog).
BTW, no offense AT ALL to any vet anywhere, but this kind of eval is not in any way part of a general vet's education. To expect a general vet to give training advice or behaviorist-type assessment is sort of like asking your podiatrist (or even your GP) to give you a mental health eval. Wrong person.
This is NOTHING insulting to GP vets inn any way. IMO, this is not what they trained for.
I will even add that a general sit-down-stay-come trainer who is not experienced in this kind of eval is almost equally time-wasting.
JMO!
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Got a tad off topic.
What were the three avals? (I mean, how many said genetically fearful, how many said dominant-aggressive, etc.)?
Were all three experienced with aggression (of all types)?
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I have a fear aggressive biter and it was a lot of work and the only thing I accomplished was to manage it. wit the family he is great. With the vet he is ok but like I said it was a lot of work.
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One HUGE downside to working with a dog that is genetically messed up is that, no matter how well you can "train" the dog to respond correctly, stress will always bring out the dog's natural behavior, good or bad!
I am having a hard time believing this bad gene theory. How do you know an animal has bad genes? How do we know the dog's natural behavior?
You are having a hard time believing that some dogs are born wired wrong? Why?
The questions I asked above really were an attempt to get a feel for whether this is the case here. Because this:
Has anyone here went through the leerburg program from the groundwork and up with an fearful/ human aggressive dog? I would like to hear of your experience of going through that process.
Yes, a member here did. I could ask her to PM you.
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