I don't know if you are open to a few other videos at this time, or are able to watch any of them as a pay per view, but the Michael Ellis training on The Power of Training with Food and his Marker Training video are really excellent.
Randy makes a good point on the venue Kevin. If you're going to do formal ob, AKC style, I think stay is a required command before you leave your dog for the long sit and down. I may be getting a little mixed up because its been a while, but there may even be a hand signal with it.
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..that's how my trainer and I are doing it (for UKC) -verbal "stay" and flat palm. I totally get the implication as Aaron and others point out that you stay in position until I release, but I have to say I've used it as a duration cue along with "gooooood" and it's been very effective...
For door stuff and shorter intervals I use 'wait'..
Having done Schutzhund and AKC OB with the same dog I use the stay command as just another distraction to ignore when I go in the AKC ring. Meets their criteria though.
IMO, the stay command with a hand signal is so easy to teach that I wouldn't bother with it at first. Its better to just have whatever position be held until released like mentioned earlier in the thread.
My dog was trained with stay too early it made a lot more work for me. I wont ever do it that way again.
The hand signal is understood very quickly by most dogs, so if you want to incorporate it later on its easy to do. Or, like Bob says you can just bluff it.
hmm.. My last dog I trained stay after a stand, Since I started marker training I don't train stay at all.. Even with the stand he knows to stay until released.
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