Lauren Jeffery wrote 04/22/2011 09:26 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Melissa Thom ] #328939 - 04/22/2011 09:26 AM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	Plus, you may not ever get him to love getting his nails cut. Tolerance is pretty much the best you can hope for.
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Jenny Arntzen wrote 04/22/2011 10:01 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #328945 - 04/22/2011 10:01 AM
Jenny Arntzen Webboard User Reg: 12-06-2010 Posts: 721 Loc: British Columbia, Canada Offline	Okay, I won't have him licking the clippers. I was trying to think of something that would at least allow me to get them within a 5 ft radius without him shying away. I think I will have to get the heavy hitting treats ready and just click and treat, see if I can get him to ease up a bit. He's 80+ lb. so I kind of need his agreement, at least partially.
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Kelly Byrd wrote 04/22/2011 10:16 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #328947 - 04/22/2011 10:16 AM
Kelly Byrd Webboard User Reg: 07-28-2010 Posts: 2249 Loc: Tacoma, WA Offline	Quote: Lauren Jeffery Im convinced its the grooming table that makes the difference. The one time Tasha acted out about a nail trim at the groomer was when she hooked her to a leash hitch instead of putting her up on the table. Melissa, do you agree with that? I find that I end up doing most of the big dogs on the floor. I can see how the table could make the difference though.
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Melissa Thom wrote 04/22/2011 10:27 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Kelly Byrd ] #328953 - 04/22/2011 10:27 AM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline
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Cheri Grissom wrote 04/22/2011 11:12 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Melissa Thom ] #328959 - 04/22/2011 11:12 AM
Cheri Grissom Webboard User Reg: 09-30-2010 Posts: 2610 Loc: Michigan Offline	One thing that helped when I was trying to teach my fearful rescue dog to have her nails trimmed was peanut butter on a spoon. It takes two people. I would operate the nail clippers (in my case a Dremel tool), and my husband would hold a spoonful of peanut butter in front of her nose. Licking peanut butter off a spoon takes a lot more concentration than just taking a treat from a hand. After a few sessions like that, we were able to eliminate the peanut butter and just use treats. To this day (three years later), she occasionally decides for no reason that I can discern that she is once again scared to have her nails trimmed. (I'm sure I haven't quicked her. In fact, I leave her nails longer than I normally would just to be sure I don't.) So I just go back to square one and put the Dremel on the lowest speed possible and touch it for a few seconds, treat, repeat, etc.
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Jenny Arntzen wrote 04/22/2011 11:54 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Cheri Grissom ] #328961 - 04/22/2011 11:54 AM
Jenny Arntzen Webboard User Reg: 12-06-2010 Posts: 721 Loc: British Columbia, Canada Offline	I did an exercise with both dogs of simply touching the clipper to their foot and clicking and giving a treat. Jethro flinched a couple of times, but then settled down to get a treat for letting me touch his foot with this "thing". As usual, Skipper leads the way, and once Jethro sees Skipper accepting the touch and getting treats for it, he wants to play too. I like the peanut butter on the spoon. I think I will use that for our first attempt.
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Jennifer Lee wrote 04/22/2011 05:50 PM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Jenny Arntzen ] #329008 - 04/22/2011 05:50 PM
Jennifer Lee Webboard User Reg: 12-16-2007 Posts: 2851 Loc: oklahoma Offline	They do Loki on the floor too. I end up sitting in a chair and he will lean into me to get away from the groomer so I can help hold him still. He still tries to yank his feet away from her but it is with less power behind it, and he doesn't scream and try to run off like he does with me. I touched and rubbed his feet for months and got him totally used to it. Then I touched his toenails with the clippers for another month or so and got him used to that. But the combination of holding his foot and coming at him with the clippers still causes him to freak out. He has never been quicked or had a bad nail experience, he just really really doesn't like it.
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Tim Curtis wrote 04/22/2011 09:19 PM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Cheri Grissom ] #329031 - 04/22/2011 09:19 PM
Tim Curtis Webboard User Reg: 07-23-2010 Posts: 227 Loc: Midwest Offline	Quote: cheri grissom Here is a canine sports medicine specialist's opinion on the dewclaw issue. I attended Dr. Zink's seminar last month and have changed my mind about dewclaws. Previously, I thought they basically had no function and were just evolutionary "leftovers." After listening to her and seeing her slides of dogs in action, using the dewclaws, my opinion has changed. http://www.caninesports.com/DewClawExplanation.pdf Very interesting. Brodie, when he is laying down at the end of a wooden dock or on top of a picnic table will sometimes flex all his claws including the dewclaw around the end/side of a plank (if that makes sense). The dewclaw definately moves and grips. Brodie
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Kelly Byrd wrote 04/23/2011 12:00 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Jennifer Lee ] #329047 - 04/23/2011 12:00 AM
Kelly Byrd Webboard User Reg: 07-28-2010 Posts: 2249 Loc: Tacoma, WA Offline	Quote: Jennifer Lee They do Loki on the floor too. I end up sitting in a chair and he will lean into me to get away from the groomer so I can help hold him still. He still tries to yank his feet away from her but it is with less power behind it, and he doesn't scream and try to run off like he does with me. I touched and rubbed his feet for months and got him totally used to it. Then I touched his toenails with the clippers for another month or so and got him used to that. But the combination of holding his foot and coming at him with the clippers still causes him to freak out. He has never been quicked or had a bad nail experience, he just really really doesn't like it. I'm lazy. I toss a muzzle on Koenig, and do him while he's standing in the kitchen, or I'll roll him on his back, laying between my legs on the living room floor. The muzzle isn't so he won't bite.... he wouldn't dream of that... it just distracts him enough so he does not twitch/yank away from me. I should really stop being lazy and just marker train it. Sigh.
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Al Curbow wrote 04/23/2011 08:39 AM Re: Managing dew claws [Re: Jenny Arntzen ] #329057 - 04/23/2011 08:39 AM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	I never gave it to much thought. I trim them like the other nails.
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