Dave Owen wrote 05/01/2011 08:25 PM supplementation #330679 - 05/01/2011 08:25 PM
Dave Owen Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2011 Posts: 381 Loc: Alberta Canada Offline	in dr. Ian Billinghurst's book Give your dog a bone(it does really lay it all out sensibly) I need to double check something, I'll use vit.C as the example.. slight stress he says 100mg/kg, so for my dog Bridget who is 225lbs,102.27kg or for easy figuring lets say 100kg(not fat just really built well) I could give her 10000mg. Now I take a 500mg tab myself each day, so for her I could give 20 tabs daily, and under high stress up to 3.5 times as much....have I got this right, I know v.C is soluble so no harm done, but the non solubles I come up with big #'s that would possibly surpass common sence IMO, is it totaly porponiate to weight, or is there a limit per dog??? We are making the switch to raw, but not quite yet
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/01/2011 08:46 PM Re: supplementation [Re: Dave Owen ] #330696 - 05/01/2011 08:46 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: dave owen in dr. Ian Billinghurst's book Give your dog a bone(it does really lay it all out sensibly) I need to double check something, I'll use vit.C as the example.. slight stress he says 100mg/kg, so for my dog Bridget who is 225lbs,102.27kg or for easy figuring lets say 100kg(not fat just really built well) I could give her 10000mg. Now I take a 500mg tab myself each day, so for her I could give 20 tabs daily, and under high stress up to 3.5 times as much....have I got this right, I know v.C is soluble so no harm done, but the non solubles I come up with big #'s that would possibly surpass common sence IMO, is it totaly porponiate to weight, or is there a limit per dog??? We are making the switch to raw, but not quite yet Is your dog healthy? And you are giving fish oil and E? You know dogs make their own C, like most animals, and that adding it for a healthy dog (there are chronic conditions for which C is a whole story that I don't think you're asking) is really "extra" antioxidant for stress, including physical stress? Billinghurst says that a dog undergoing slight stress should be fed 100mg per kg; moderately stressed dogs should be given 200mg per kg; those suffering heavy stress should be given 300mg per kg; and those subject to very heavy stress should have 350mg of vitamin C per kg of their own weight. Is your dog stressed? In what way? And you are right that you cannot extrapolate the water-solubles to the fat-solubles. What fat-solubles are you giving besides the E to support the fish oil?
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Dave Owen wrote 05/01/2011 09:12 PM Re: supplementation [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #330719 - 05/01/2011 09:12 PM
Dave Owen Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2011 Posts: 381 Loc: Alberta Canada Offline	she's not stressed, actually I was just trying to wrap my head around the #'s. right now for the mastiffs I give a multi for dogs and feed premium "crap in a bag" with various cooked meats (yes I now know its not perfect), a big mix of vegies and fruit(have not found any thing they don;t like) I just want a solid understanding because even a cheap kibble is better than a bad raw diet(maybe equil in the long run???) the other issue holding us back is they are slobbers, but are reading lots of solutions to that. My puppy pisa is on a crazy high cal. food.almost 500kcal per cup, 30%protein and 20%fat I did question the breeder on that(actually standing in petstore on cell) and he said it was because of the high metabolism, totally diferent from my mastiffs, they got adult food from day one to grow slow
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Dave Owen wrote 05/01/2011 09:18 PM Re: supplementation [Re: Dave Owen ] #330723 - 05/01/2011 09:18 PM
Dave Owen Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2011 Posts: 381 Loc: Alberta Canada Offline	Pisa will be getting switched to raw quite soon, was told to wait till after 4 months for her, she is quite lean, but not lacking, grow slow IMO she is getting about 4 cups a day of kibble, and almost a cup of treats consiting of different cooked meats, different cheeses
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