jeff vanstee Webboard User Reg: 04-26-2011
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11 mth old GSD with very good temperment and still learning but i have 3 questions to ask ?
1) he steps into the 1st step of the pool but refuse to jump in and have fun and barks at water and wait impatiently for the toy to come near the side of pool so he can grab it.he refuses to come into the water.
2) every ball we throw he will not bring it back at all.
3) he is constantly looking for shadows and scratching at them.
how do i overcome this above 3 problems we have accounter.
he is still learning the basics.
Edited by jeff vanstee (11/18/2011 08:07 PM)
Edit reason: spelling
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Well, I'll start:
1. Play with the dog at that first step. Stay there at the steps, having a good time, letting it happen as it happens. Gradually work your way down the steps with his favorite toy(s). Take your time. Move away a little and come back. Move away with his favorite toy ..... you get the idea.
There's a big advantage to this even aside from the obvious one of not triggering panic: he will learn clearly where the steps are and how to get out. This is crucial.
2. The retrieve, as an old hand here (Bob Scott) says, is not a matter of throwing the item and hoping for the best. I back-chain the retrieve steps. Are you familiar with back-chaining a command's training (teaching the links of the behavior in reverse order)?
jeff vanstee Webboard User Reg: 04-26-2011
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LOL it was to be spelled as "scratching",see what meds. will do to you when your back is sore.
anyways heis scratching and bitting at the floor where the shadows are at--alot i dont know how to stop this,besides turning off the lights....lol
i tried to coach him into coming in from 1st step for months and he wont go for 2nd ...very seldom.
and yes i saw the back chaining command today watching micheal explaining it and Thank you for explaining that to me :}
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he gets a lot of execise and he gets the 1/4 acre of yard to ran around when he is home...several times a day n we are playing tug but working very little with him just letting him being a puppy.my little girl loves to play tag with after school.she chases him all over the place.
lasers...yes we used that when he was 2-3 months old only for a week but when we came to know about the effects we stop immediately.so, no we never play that at all after that 1 week.
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and flash lights also but all stop with the lasers.he is not chasing lights but his own shadows or mine or even tables or furniture..like he cant do much at night and now days with the sun..shadows
Man, this is a tough one. Try and distract him before he catches the movement, I mean RIGHT before and tell him "no", then do something fun or pet him etc. Kind of like you would with a tail chaser. You probably are going to need help from an outside source for this though because you'll need good timing. This really is a tough one.
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You may indeed require professional help. Hearing that he was exposed to flashlight and laser games and is now obsessing over shadows worries me. Al is a thousand percent right about how serious it is .... how important to extinguish that.
I read some where that the obsession is caused by conflict in what the dog thinks will happen and what it feels happening. For example, the dog chases the light thinking that it will catch it, but once the dog catches the light or shadow, it feels that it has not caught it. But the dog did run up and pounce on it, and so far in it's life, it has always been able to catch things that way. This conflict apparently makes the dog more and more frustrated and if the dog is high drive, it makes the dog "desire" the shadow or laser light more and more.
The first step is to stop your dog from being exposed to such situation till you can get professional help. I do not know how one would go about preventing shadows, but thats what the experts say.
QUOTE: He is good, also has a book, The Dog Who Loved too Much, with a chapter about shadow chasing. I'd pay for a phone consult with him. Lots of bad behaviorists out there! END
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