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#30433 - 03/28/2004 07:20 PM |
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I would stay away from the linseed oil. It's just not a friendly thing for dogs to be chewing on, or rather, they shouldn't chew on them if you have that problem. Anyway, you should wear gloves applying it, what does that tell you,but more important if you have a rag soaked in it may spontaneously combust after a long induction period due to gradual exothermic reaction with oxygen. Hey imagine that, The dog doing a retrive with a dumbell that's on fire!  Hats off to you if you wear out a dumbell.
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#30434 - 03/28/2004 07:50 PM |
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Apply it with a cotton rag, or even a paper towel. Just work it in so that its not wet to the touch. The wood should absord it well, especially if its clean, untreated virgin wood. Let dry overnight.
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#30435 - 03/29/2004 09:20 AM |
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I know the original poster asked only about coating the dumbell...but I see no one suggested anything about covering the bar with another material to prevent the effects of chewing.
In the early stages of training, when my dog still chewed the bar, I was not willing to use the more expensive oak dumbells...so I covered the bar with the appropriate sized radiator hose (fabric, NOT wire re-enforced) from the local auto shop. Experimented with some glues, and found contact cement worked best (not the "earth-friendly" kind, but the gorilla cement) Just made sure no glue is showing.
So far I have made it through almost 2 yrs of training with the same set...the only thing I have to worry about is not leaving the dumbell in the rain. Evidently it is put together with "earth friendly" glue... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
BTW, there is no problem with the dog now picking up a dumbell without the hose covering. Obviously in a trial it will be bare wood.
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#30436 - 03/29/2004 12:08 PM |
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http://www.max200.com/dumbbells.htm
I have some 11+ year old max 200 single piece turned maple dumbbells that have never been treated and while they have some wear on them are still very servicable. They don't have a finish other than what years of handling, dog spit and occasional scrubbing have put there. They've been through 3 dobies and a terv.
It never occured to me to put anything on them. My other concern with oils (beyond toxicity) would be they might turn rancid. Knowing my dog's tastes, racid oil wouldn't put them off, but it sure could stink up the equipment bag.
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#30437 - 03/29/2004 01:17 PM |
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http://gsd.illusionfxnet.com/dumbell.jpg
This is the dumbell...can anyone tell me what kind of wood it might be? Not sure if it's possible to ID them on looks, I don't know a thing about wood. This was before I painted the oil on them.
I like them a lot, they were pretty cheap, too. I paid about 8 euros (about $9.50) for the 650g one, and about $13 for the 1000g one. The 2000g ones were only about $23.50 although I didn't get one of them yet...do you think that was a pretty good price?
Also, I am teaching her the forced retrieve. She's taking the dumbell very well and doesn't drop it, and will hold it for a long time. But she doesn't want to pick it up off the ground. She'll take it if I hold it right off the ground, but if it's on the ground (even if my hand's on it) she doesn't want to pick it up. How do I go about teaching her this? I'm not sure if I should start another thread for this, if so just let me know.
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#30438 - 03/29/2004 01:59 PM |
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I checked and it looks like human grade linseed oil is called flaxseed oil. I had seen the terms used interchangably on a web site before so I didn't realize that there was such a difference. Sorry for the confusion.
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#30439 - 03/29/2004 05:26 PM |
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Meghan, I suspect at those prices you did not get the turned oak dumbells. If you did I want to know where to buy them...I'd loove to have a set of those!
The ones I purchased were less than $100 per set, maplewood, but are not made out of a single piece of turned wood like Stephan posted. (Stephan's look like AKC type though, rather than Sch dumbbells) Mine are laminated, and when I left one out in the rain, the pieces started to come apart. I epoxied and vised them back together, and it hasn't given me a problem since, but I don't leave them out in the weather anymore!
PS There is another section on this forum that deals with the "Forced Retrieve". Look under the Schutzhund heading.
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#30440 - 03/29/2004 06:06 PM |
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Yes, Stephan's dumbell photo's are for the dumbells that are used in the AKC Open OB for retrieve on the flat and retrieve over the high jump.
They make them in several sizes, depending on your dogs size.
Meghan,
If you haven't seen the Flinks video about Motivational retrieve training - get it! I am so much happier training my dog in a motivational retrieve. Compared to what I had to do in the old days to achieve the degree of reliability that I can get now and still have a happy working dog - it's been a big change for the positive. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#30441 - 03/29/2004 06:36 PM |
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If you haven't seen the Flinks video about Motivational retrieve training - get it! Boy, I'll second that! I bought the Tom Rose tape on training the Forced Retrieve (table training) and there is NO way *I* can do that kind of adverse training!
I then got the Flinks tape and that method worked out great!! The dog really gets excited when I get out the dumbell (or is it "dumbbell"...?) because it represents fun, not pain!
But this discussion probably needs to move over to the Training the Retrieve section...
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