Geneva Fain Webboard User Reg: 07-31-2012
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Hi,
I have a 8 month old Dutch Shepherd, who I have been working with towards his french ring titles. Our club trainer is confident that we will be ready for the CSAU and the Brevet at the first of the year just after my boy turns a year old. Here is where the PSA comes in, out head trainer had a heart attack last week and a PSA Decoy from another group stepped in to decoy for us while our trainer is recovering. He really likes my dog and wants us to do PSA. I have already got my score book and membership with the NARA, so French Ring is my first priority, but would it be possible to train and compete in French Ring and PSA at the same time? Is either of the bite work or obedience so different that it is not good to train in both? I have been reading up on both sports and atleast in the beginning stages they seem similar enough. But I want more experienced opinions about it. Thank you in advance for any thoughts.
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006
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This is just my thoughts Geneva, maybe not worth anything, especially because I don't know the specifics of either sport beyond watching a couple of youtube videos.
Personaly, I like to stick to one thing at a time. Dogsports involve learning so much and not everything always goes right, so I could see myself confusing things and never getting anything done.
I would guess that working with good decoys and trainers, you could train both and I know a lot of dogs are capable of doing both, but for me, it would be too much work.
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Michael Ellis encourages cross training for dogs. My lab participates in agility, nosework, dock diving, will be running his first hunt test in about 10 days, and bite sports. I've noticed all sports have some kind of cross over when it comes to training, however, I do use different words for like commands for the different sports. For instance, in NW I use FIND IT as his search command, but in training for bite sport we decided upon SEARCH for the bark and hold. Enzo caught on to SEARCH the first time we gave the command and I'm certain it's because he knew how to FIND IT based upon NW, we just changed up the behavior upon his 'find'.
Geneva Fain Webboard User Reg: 07-31-2012
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Thanks you for the responses. This is not my first dog sport, or my first working dog. I just hadn't ever competed before. I plan to now. And this dog is the highest drive dog I have own so far. He seems to be thriving in both sports. And in any training I do with him. I really appreciate your thoughts. Thank you so much.
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The only problem i have seen with crossover dogs is if they hit the pivot leg on the courage test in P.S.A like is promoted in ring. In P.S.A the decoy can not make the dog miss on purpose. So the decoy prepares to catch the dog on the left, the dog reads the telegraph and hits the right leg for fear of loosing the left. This often jams the dog at those velocity, or at least on the greener decoys, but other than that the dogs did great with both.
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Can you do French Ring and PSA at the same time?
Thank you in advance for any thoughts.
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