Kristin Muntz Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2012
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I have been trying to think about how to clearly phrase this thread for a bit now.
Duke loves the ball retrieve and the tug/bite pillows. Generally, once I call an end to the play (usually either when he doesn't behave as requested, ie. bring me the toy back, or when he starts to look frothed) about 1/3 times or 1/4 times he'll react by jumping on me, trying to get at the toy and biting (shallow nipping) at my arms.
Clearly I'm following the rule of 'end the game before dog gets bored' because he is NOT done, but what exactly do I do with this? about half the time I can get him to respond to OB at this point, the other half of the time he remains a stubborn git and keeps trying to get at the toy. I have been offering a verbal correction, turning my back to him and walking to the door - I'd like to see if there's something more productive I could be doing here.
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006
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I would leave a tab or drag line on him and correct him for it. No teeth on me. Then I'd still have a tab or dragline on him and the only obedience would walking him calmly to his crate. I'd stick with doing that for a good amount of time even though you may not have needed to correct him for a long time.
I think maybe the ending isnt clear to him because you've continued to do something with him after telling him it was done.
Do you allow the jumping and nipping during the actual training period?
Dogs are black and white when it comes to what's allowed and what's not. That shouldn't be a part of the training game. You can't let them get away with something one time and expect compliance another time.
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Nope, jumping is not ever encouraged, and nipping on us is always an immediate game ender (unless it's what I would call a fair miss at a toy) - always with a verbal 'NO BITE'. Generally 'feet on people' is given an immediate verbal correction with a 'DOWN' command - we don't allow it even when he's going for a good bite on a toy. He SHOULD know he's not supposed to be doing it* (as we immediately mark and praise four feet on the ground. Generally it only happens now when he's being an utter butthead / really excited.
*I think I read Connie saying something about this, every time we think a dog absolutely understands a command, if they're not doing it, we're wrong. Consistency and repetition
*I think I read Connie saying something about this, every time we think a dog absolutely understands a command, if they're not doing it, we're wrong. Consistency and repetition
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