Here is how I do it from the begining.Hold the ball behind my back and make the dog look in my eyes and praies her when she is doing it and say no when she is not.When she maintains a stare for just a few seconds out pops the ball.When you have that down id do this.Hold the ball straight out at arms lenth ,when she looks at it say NO and quickly put the ball behind your back and get eye contact again then slowly straighten your arm back out again as soon as she looks at it,behind your back,keep doing that until she keeps looking in your eyes with your arm and ball sraight out.When she'll do it free her up and reward.Oh I would have a string on the ball so you dont have to go through getting the ball back and you can get faster repititions in.
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
It isn't necessary to use the aversives ("NO")in teaching the dog that staring at the ball will never earn the ball. If you have reasonably good timing, you can start like David described, ball behind your back, dog in a sit. When she looks up at you for just an instant, MARK THAT MOMENT with either a verbal 'YES' or use a clicker, whatever. But mark it (this is called a conditioned reinforcer if you care) and THEN instantly she gets the ball. Why mark it rather than just give her the ball? Cuz you cannot produce the ball while she's looking at you; as you begin to move your arm to bring it out, she will shift her gaze to your arm/hand and probably she will jump up. Then she gets the ball - now you've rewarded her for looking for the ball AND for getting up. Using a specific marker word or clicker as a reinforcer tells the dog what behavior it is you liked. Then what the dog does after that doesn't matter. If you'll repeat this simple procedure, leaving out the corrections, she'll very quickly figure out that looking up is somehow the key to this thing. When you progress to having the ball more in sight, she is going to regress cuz of the temptation; but she will look at you if you have a little patience. When she looks, mark it and give the ball. Colleen's dog sounds like she has a very low threshold for stimulation, so I would recommend not moving the ball around for many days. Keep the stimulation and temptation low so she can be successful more easily, then only gradually increase the temptation.
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