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Quote: steve strom
With your new, better understanding and big time trainer, ask him why you would stop as soon as she shows any aversion? To me, that sounds like either a problem in the training, you're teaching her to avoid and that will make it stop, or maybe, that's why she's not the right dog for what your doing?
I agree. I didn't catch it before, but it sure sounds like you're stopping the dog at just the point where it has to decide if it's going to defend itself (if working in defense), or bite the prey (if working in prey drive). You may be removing the pressure just before the point that the pressure is supposed to take the dog. Unless, of course, the dog has already gone into avoidance, in which case the dog is not suited for bitework.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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"The impression you gave was the opposite of not trying to force her to bite. It sounded to me like your plan was to push her so hard she wasn't going to see any other option and would bite out of fear."
Yes, that is what the O.P. indicated.
This is exactly what everyone here protested, from experience and out of concern for the dog.
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IMO
Edited by Connie Sutherland (05/03/2013 02:30 PM)
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""The impression you gave was the opposite of not trying to force her to bite. It sounded to me like your plan was to push her so hard she wasn't going to see any other option and would bite out of fear."
The old beat em till they bite out of fear and self preservation routine.
I got me a bad^$$ protection dog now! :rolleyes:
Just don't give that dog a way out or you'll be all alone.
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Re: Standstill in protection training, need input
[Re: steve strom ]
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