Thanks Connie, your link to the main page works, but I think Samantha was trying to link to a specific product, and I got the "page not found" error from their site.

In the Max link you can click on the image to blow it up. It's still not perfectly legible, but you can make out most of it. It looks like

Active ingredients:
Rosemary oil
Peppermint oil

Other ingredients:
Wintergreen oil, Mineral oil and something else I can't quite make out.

I just ordered a bottle though, so I will know soon!

Ah. I asked about rosemary oil because it's a neurotoxin to dogs.

I wouldn't use it, myself, because my dogs are very prone to lick at anything sprayed or otherwise applied to their fur or skin.

If you do decided to use it, I'd be very careful to observe the dog and be certain he is not licking at it.

You may have noticed that we've discussed the tiny amounts of rosemary extract used as a preservative in some fish oil products. This amount is miniscule, and it is NOT rosemary oil (it's the oil that's so toxic), and even so is not recommended (in a couple of sources) for a dog with a seizure disorder.

Rosemary oil should never be taken internally by humans or dogs. The list of problems with taking it internally is a long one.

Of course, humans would spray it or rub it on and not lick it off.

Dogs, though .....

I almost didn't post this because it sounds like I'm trying to tear apart a whole post, and I'm not.

But fresh garlic is also toxic to dogs, as is the entire allium family, although garlic is nowhere near as toxic for dogs as onions. (Most toxicity lists say "garlic in large amounts." I avoid giving foods that are toxic in individually differing amounts, but I know many people do give garlic in small amounts.)

The problem is that it's also toxic in cumulative amounts, and it does not have individually predictable levels (one dog can vary hugely in vulnerability from another).

There are so many threads here already about garlic that I won't hunt them up unless someone wants and can't find one. You'll find garlic and onions on all the "Toxic for Dogs" lists, however.

Here are a couple of links, though:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetmed/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=174478

http://www.jaaha.org/content/41/1/68.abstract

I use Quantum 100% Natural Flea & Tick Spray.

http://www.quantumherbalproducts.com/frame_pet.htm

It used to be marketed as a coat conditioner W/ the added use as a repellant...now as the repellant. It is pricey, but works well. Even in the woods or tracking dogs in deep grass.

I got it for years from Dr.Martin Goldsteins's office (he used to be my regular vet until his prices went thru the roof). But I still purchase some products from his office.

Found out a while back that you can get it online.

Thanks Connie! From the image it looks like the Rosemary oil is at 00.02%, but I won't be taking any chances. I'll save this one for the nieces and nephews and use something else for me and my pup.

Very interesting about the rosemary oil. I haven't had a problem with it over the years, but I'll ask my vet what he thinks about me using it.

As far as garlic goes, there's two camps. One says its' fine. The other says the other is killing their dogs slowly but surely. I like a moderate approach, but I also haven't had any reactions to the garlic. Preserved (dried) garlic is useless for the affects I want. I got my dosages from a previous vet, and all the other vets have explained toxicity to me but said they didn't see a problem with the amounts I give.

Well, your dogs may not lick their fur or skin.

But for the ones who do:


University of Maryland:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/rosemary-000271.htm

"Rosemary oil ..... should never be taken orally."




http://www.ehow.com/list_6011794_rosemary-oil-side-effects.html

"Rosemary oil should never be internally consumed or ingested in any way. Rosemary oil can be toxic if taken orally because it contains camphor and other toxic chemicals. If taken orally rosemary oil can cause epileptic convulsions, kidney damage, digestive problems, and death. Because of this, rosemary oil should only be used externally. If Rosemary oil is ingested seek medical attention immediately."




In "Problems in Small Animal Neurology", by Cheryl L. Chrisman, DVM
(College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Florida)
Published in 1991 by Lea & Febiger
Page 190, "Chemicals that cause convulsions," includes in the list rosemary oil



People don't lick it off, so the warnings here are directed to dogs who lick their fur and skin (that's many many dogs).

Yours may not do this at all. But so many do, that it seems like an important warning.

Clove oil is also toxic in large amounts. It affects the liver.

The amounts given were very large though. "Dog ca. 50 mg/kg i.v. Choleresis Chabrol, 1931" Wading through reports of sensitivity tests on lab animals makes me .

I'm thinking a drop or two on the paw probably won't hurt anything.

I use 2 drops of an essential oil diluted in a large ear wash bottle for Tanners ears which is fairly toxic to dogs when ingested in small amounts or absorbed in larger amounts. It's very effective. He stops scratching and being irritated by his ears pretty much instantly and he never gets the full yeast infection. I have not seen how it would do against a full blown yeast infection but from what I'm seeing I would think it would be effective. I think the risk is worth it given that he has damage to one ear from past infections and has a history of scratching his head bloody. I was given an elizabethan collar to control the scratching when I adopted him.

It seems like all the essential oils have some degree of toxicity. Most medications do also. You just need to be aware of how toxic the oil is and make other people aware of the toxicity if you suggest it's use.

I just noticed all The Honest Kitchen's dog food contains "rosemary extract"

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

You may have noticed that we've discussed the tiny amounts of rosemary extract used as a preservative in some fish oil products. This amount is miniscule, and it is NOT rosemary oil (it's the oil that's so toxic) ....

I haven't read about a rosemary extract neuro problem ..... just rosemary OIL. (Although for a dog who has a seizure disorder, I've read recommendations to be super safe and avoid rosemary in all forms.)

But it's rosemary oil that all those neurotoxin quotes were about.