Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378425 - 05/25/2013 07:49 AM |
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Yay!!!!! This is great news!! So proud of you for trying so hard and listening to others suggestions!!
It's soooooooo educational to review your training sessions on a video.
It usually leads to breakthroughs.
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378431 - 05/25/2013 09:22 AM |
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light at the end of the tunnel you say? lol...well today I am enjoying a good day....she is being the nice Ziva....lol will tell more tomorrow morning.
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378432 - 05/25/2013 09:35 AM |
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Congrats on the success!
That's how this puppy-rearing works: trying new things until you figure out what "clicks" with the dog you've got. Gradually, you trade bad days for good ones until they are mostly all good days. Too many bad days in a row means you're not sending cues that the dog understands, so you've got to try a slightly different approach.
Sounds like you might have figured out an important one with the toy on the walk. Sometimes it's just that simple.
Don't forget to reinforce those good days too. Even when she's being good by accident, praise, touch, treat to reinforce the things you want her to repeat. I still walk by a dog in my house and say things like "what a good dog to lie quietly" and give them a look and a smile--that's a pretty good reward for something they were doing anyway. But it helps them know what I like. Just as important as them knowing what you don't like.
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378433 - 05/25/2013 09:43 AM |
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Thanks Tracy;
I am doing just that....and she seems to respond well to the little petting when she brings the ball, she interacts well on games in the garden as well today
Wonder if that is related to the loading the mark for 50 times just before it??? any one have an idea about the possibility?
during the walks I would says many time...."you're such a good girl" and she would look at me all proud....she got lots of treats to reinforce that behavior. Will keep it up rest assure, I prefer that than what we both went through yesterday...must not have been fun for her either.
cheers eveyone!! here is a happy puppy owner lol
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378469 - 05/26/2013 03:16 AM |
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I think the following could be categorized on this thread,
How did I handle my hyper 6 months pup Kuvasz this morning:
First let me start with mentioning that yesterdat I listened for the second time Ed's Podcast on Training with Markers because Willie had started me Loading the Mark with Ziva for the past 3 days. The information from the podcast being fresh in my mind some things Ed suggests came to mind and seamed appropriate for the situation I was facing at the time.
1- This morning I took her out of the crate, she was very hyper,,,had a hard time to put the collar on....she was jumping, holding me with her front paws.....”NO” , “LEAVE IT” did not work so I took the initiative to act upon her behavior. In the Podcast Ed talks about “time out” in the crate for a few minutes when a dog shows no interest in working as he thinks that “time out” might motivate a dog to work, in my case to cooperate. So I put her back in the crate, I did not say anything and did it in a calm manner.......she stayed there until she was calm but still sitting...she knew that her breakfast was waiting....I took her out again.....and again, jumping, bitting hands and sleeve.....I put her back in the crate, like the time before, no words and calmly....this time she gave a fuss. I waited till she lay down her head down to the floor before to take her out again....Once I opened the crate door, she sat, got leashed and walked to the door, sat, waited to be told to go through and did the same at the garage door where she is fed. Not because it worked that it means I did well....I would like your comments on that please.
2- Taking you back a few posts I used to take a tug rope with us during our walks...I stoped doing that as it seamed to get her prey drive to peack...So on migrating this morning, she wanted to play tug with the leash and jumped inviting me to play....once again having the podcast fresh in my memory I chose to ignore that behavior not having yet a word for it and not having a solution at hand to correct it.....so each time she would let go of the leash I would mark it with a “yes” and give a treat....I did the same with the jumping, as soon she had 4 on the ground I would mark it “yes” give a treat......I did the same when she was walking nicely to my side....mark it ‘yes” give a treat......and also with the sitting on the stops. I did not give commands, did not remind her of anything, I ignored misbehavior and marked what I liked......it worked....the tug with the leash ended, the jumping ended and she got marked many times for the walking and the sitting. And I realized she looked at me often. Once again, not because it worked that it means I did well....I would like your comments on that please.
The only word I said was "LEAVE IT" when she would pick up something and trade with a treat....that is well on its way and I don’t want her to keep stuff she picks up in her mouth......She did her business in the area I proposed....now this not being a command, I am just proposing her to do her things there she doesn’t have to comply if she doesn’t have to go....right? I praised her with “good girl” and a treat.
Looking forward to read your thoughts on these.
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378480 - 05/26/2013 12:18 PM |
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It sounds like you are absolutely on the right track, the rewarding the behaviors that you want, rewarding it all the time---and ignoring the stuff that you can't correct because the dog doesnt listen, blows you off.
In the first week that I was seriously following Leerburg principles, trying to gain control, all the food that my dog had came from my hand for behaviors that I wanted. Very shortly he began offering behaviors, including allowing me to touch him which was huge. I believe he still thought that somehow he was manipulating me, but he was manipulating by doing what I wanted him to do, like walk nicely, come when called, his cattle work etc. instead of nipping and being a jerk.
It took a long time to cement the behaviours that I wanted, and he still will back slide. Marker training gave us a communication tool that unlocked my dogs potential.
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378482 - 05/26/2013 12:23 PM |
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Encouraging!!! thanks Betty
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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#378497 - 05/26/2013 04:20 PM |
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YAY!!!!!!!! Great job Solange!!!
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Re: How would you manage, handle a high prey drive pu
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FANTABULOUS!
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