I am new to this so I may be way off, but I think it would be a desire to please. I have a high drive dog and sometimes his drive takes over and he is more interested in fulfilling that drive than pleasing me. Even though he is a great dog. Bindi loves to please me. She will try to do anything I ask in order to make me happy. She is very smart and very willing. SHe likes to do things so well, she tries to keep things very precise. We adopted her when she was one year old and not sure what her life before us was like.
A desire to please.
Sharon and her pups Bindi cody terra
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I am new to this so I may be way off, but I think it would be a desire to please. I have a high drive dog and sometimes his drive takes over and he is more interested in fulfilling that drive than pleasing me. Even though he is a great dog. Bindi loves to please me. She will try to do anything I ask in order to make me happy. She is very smart and very willing. SHe likes to do things so well, she tries to keep things very precise. We adopted her when she was one year old and not sure what her life before us was like.
A desire to please.
Sharon and her pups Bindi cody terra
What does everyone think makes a "top" competition obedience competitor? Are all the top goldens "drivey" like I'm sure the border collies are?
I've always looked for a pup with a natural retrieve. That shows a willingness to work with a handler as opposed to a dog that is possessive of it's toy, etc.
"Drivey" is important but it can also control the dog beyond what control you may have over it.
That natural retrieve was a big point in choosing my first GSD for SAR also.
To look at them you would think both of my GSD were retrieving freaks but #2 had to be taught (markers w/back chaining). He now loves it but it was never even close to being "natural" for him. He still shows a small amount of avoidance when it comes to bringing it to my hand. In the begining he would just pick it up and run. #1 will shove anything in his mouth right into my hand, open or closed, if I want it or not. He's done that since the first day I tested him at 4 wks old.
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What does everyone think makes a "top" competition obedience competitor? Are all the top goldens "drivey" like I'm sure the border collies are?
I've always looked for a pup with a natural retrieve. That shows a willingness to work with a handler as opposed to a dog that is possessive of it's toy, etc.
"Drivey" is important but it can also control the dog beyond what control you may have over it.
That natural retrieve was a big point in choosing my first GSD for SAR also.
To look at them you would think both of my GSD were retrieving freaks but #2 had to be taught (markers w/back chaining). He now loves it but it was never even close to being "natural" for him. He still shows a small amount of avoidance when it comes to bringing it to my hand. In the begining he would just pick it up and run. #1 will shove anything in his mouth right into my hand, open or closed, if I want it or not. He's done that since the first day I tested him at 4 wks old.
How do you recognize a natural retriever? I know you don't "toss an object and hope for the
best." (Where have I heard that?)
What does everyone think makes a "top" competition obedience competitor? Are all the top goldens "drivey" like I'm sure the border collies are?
I've always looked for a pup with a natural retrieve. That shows a willingness to work with a handler as opposed to a dog that is possessive of it's toy, etc.
"Drivey" is important but it can also control the dog beyond what control you may have over it.
That natural retrieve was a big point in choosing my first GSD for SAR also.
To look at them you would think both of my GSD were retrieving freaks but #2 had to be taught (markers w/back chaining). He now loves it but it was never even close to being "natural" for him. He still shows a small amount of avoidance when it comes to bringing it to my hand. In the begining he would just pick it up and run. #1 will shove anything in his mouth right into my hand, open or closed, if I want it or not. He's done that since the first day I tested him at 4 wks old.
How do you recognize a natural retriever? I know you don't "toss an object and hope for the
best." (Where have I heard that?)
In spite of my preaching that IS how you find out.
Thunder and one other pup in his litter were retrieving paper wads aka above. That's a HUGE part of my selection criteria. I didn't select Trooper since he was one of only two males and his breeder kept the other. No testing...and he had no retrieve at all.
Testing for a retrieve is different then training for it.
That's my disclaimer and I'm sticking to it.
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