 Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385044 - 10/24/2013 09:27 AM |
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385045 - 10/24/2013 09:31 AM |
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Coming back to the 'threat display', my dog can be extremely vocal, and as I trained him to growl on command, even my personal dog trainer almost peed his pants, until he saw, that we can turn this off an on in almost any situation. Youtube Link
Michael, I'm curious. You have trained Dexter (beautiful dog, by the way) to bark and growl at you in response to a sniffing sound. Are you not concerned about how will he react if he is in close proximity to another person who happens to make a similar sniffing sound, due to a cold, perhaps?
Also, you also say you can turn this off in almost any situation......
Lol, that's not 'trained' Cheri. That's messing with a dog to get a reaction.
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385046 - 10/24/2013 09:35 AM |
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I have just the victim in mind, Steve  Duke loves him and he's not scary but not scared either. The guy's great with dogs.
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385047 - 10/24/2013 10:05 AM |
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If I was going to teach something like this Kristin, and there could very well be better ways, the first thing I would think about is, what's a good example of what I want? Un conflicted, happy barking in anticipation of a toy. Ideally like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgqcB2ViUI
I think I'd begin with teaching some kind of directional command to teach him to focus away from me along the lines of a send out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moZVIEiDu2o
And I'd have someone My dog knows be a toy dispenser kinda like this, except they'd throw the toy far to the side without the dog coming in on them:
http://vimeo.com/17123406
I don't want him barking at me and I'm not going to puff around like an asthmatic just irritating him. Add a cue and reward for what you want.
That clip of un-conflicted barking is great. What training! 
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385052 - 10/24/2013 12:40 PM |
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I have to agree with Steve. I've held my tongue since I saw MS' video right after he posted it, but what I saw was adog that was reacting to his handler; not necessarily one that was making a threat display that was trained and proofed.
I'll also add (sorry, Michael, I sure hope you don't feel that I'm being overly critical) that the obedience training is not rock solid, and I would be hesitant to have him threaten a human. I'm like Cheri; I would want proof that, when directed at a stranger, I could turn that behavior off in ANY circumstance.
ETA: For beginners, in the first video that Steve posted, I think it is extremely important to note the level of obedience that the two dogs demonstrate. If I were to have my dog threaten someone, that's the level of control that I would want.
Edited by Duane Hull (10/24/2013 12:40 PM)
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
[Re: steve strom ]
#385065 - 10/24/2013 01:54 PM |
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Coming back to the 'threat display', my dog can be extremely vocal, and as I trained him to growl on command, even my personal dog trainer almost peed his pants, until he saw, that we can turn this off an on in almost any situation. Youtube Link
Michael, I'm curious. You have trained Dexter (beautiful dog, by the way) to bark and growl at you in response to a sniffing sound. Are you not concerned about how will he react if he is in close proximity to another person who happens to make a similar sniffing sound, due to a cold, perhaps?
Also, you also say you can turn this off in almost any situation......
Lol, that's not 'trained' Cheri. That's messing with a dog to get a reaction.
Maybe "trained" was the wrong word for me to use. I should clarify that I was questioning Michael because it seemed to me that Dexter was barking and growling at a sniffing sound, and I didn't understand why anyone would encourage their dog to put on a threat display in response to a common and innocent noise any human might make?
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
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#385078 - 10/24/2013 07:19 PM |
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Coming back to the 'threat display', my dog can be extremely vocal, and as I trained him to growl on command, even my personal dog trainer almost peed his pants, until he saw, that we can turn this off an on in almost any situation. Youtube Link
Michael, I'm curious. You have trained Dexter (beautiful dog, by the way) to bark and growl at you in response to a sniffing sound. Are you not concerned about how will he react if he is in close proximity to another person who happens to make a similar sniffing sound, due to a cold, perhaps?
Also, you also say you can turn this off in almost any situation......
Lol, that's not 'trained' Cheri. That's messing with a dog to get a reaction.
Maybe "trained" was the wrong word for me to use. I should clarify that I was questioning Michael because it seemed to me that Dexter was barking and growling at a sniffing sound, and I didn't understand why anyone would encourage their dog to put on a threat display in response to a common and innocent noise any human might make?
OK, I am not concerned Cheri, because Dexter doesn't even sit for others. He doesn't take commands from anybody except me and my wife. That happened in part because of his personality, and part of the training we do. I go with him to a training class with 10 dogs once a week, and part of the training is to not listen to the trainers or anybody else's commands.
This behavior I tested with a few neighbors, and he does it only for me or my wife.
Next for Steve: I don't think it is messing with the dog, because I can also connect a word with this behavior, instead of the noise. I don't know, if you can stop a behavior this fast, if you mess with a dog.
I didn't make this video for this threat, it was just on my computer, and I decided one day to put it on youtube. Then there was another remark about the not solid obedience. It was never my intention to make the dog a competition dog. Overall I was to easy on him, and we have good and bad days. If he is in a showoff mood, then he works much better, faster, and more accurate.
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Re: Teaching a companion dog a 'threat display'.
[Re: steve strom ]
#385086 - 10/24/2013 11:28 PM |
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If I was going to teach something like this Kristin, and there could very well be better ways, the first thing I would think about is, what's a good example of what I want? Un conflicted, happy barking in anticipation of a toy. Ideally like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgqcB2ViUI
I think I'd begin with teaching some kind of directional command to teach him to focus away from me along the lines of a send out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moZVIEiDu2o
And I'd have someone My dog knows be a toy dispenser kinda like this, except they'd throw the toy far to the side without the dog coming in on them:
http://vimeo.com/17123406
I don't want him barking at me and I'm not going to puff around like an asthmatic just irritating him. Add a cue and reward for what you want.
Thunder's Schutzhund hold and bark is an off shoot of his bark alert on a victim when we were in SAR. The helper just brought out a bit of aggression with the H&B.
I've never used any "threat display" but it wouldn't be hard to do. Just put a word on it every time someone gets near "HIS" car. 
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