Steve Rigby Webboard User Reg: 02-12-2014
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Hi Guys,
I have a 14 month old Dutch Herder from a working line. I'm having problems putting him in his kennel. I can get him in there ok but when I come to leave he goes mad and starts trying to grab hold of me to stop me leaving him. Once I've got outside and shut the mesh door he's jumping at it trying to get out and making a lot of noise. I'm worried one day soon he's going to hurt himself.
Does anybody have some ideas how I can train this out of him?
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I've had him from a young pup. He slept in a crate in the house at first and when out was on a leash. He's not isolated from the family. He's had this problem all along. When I put him in the crate as a puppy he would go mad, jumping around and squealing. I tried varying the times I left him before coming back but it made no difference. He goes quiet once he realises he's stuck in there but it's that first instance of shutting him in.
If I do any training with him before I put him in the kennel then it's worse, I guess because he's in a higher state of drive from the training. It's sport based training but I'm not working towards competing, just for fun and to give him what he needs.
Give him all his meals in the crate with the door left open.
Does he have a special blanket outside the crate? If so put that in the crate when he isn't eating.
Do you marker train? Easy to learn and you can mark and reward whenever he goes in on his own.
Get him used to that because he's had a history of negative attitude being in there. The last thing he needs is to close him off in there before he learns the door isn't going to be closed on him every time he goes in there.
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He's got a very high everything drive not just food. Ball, bite roll, bite wedge, bite sleeve, slipper, cat, sweet doggy love on your leg, it's all there.
I've tried putting food treats in the kennel and he'll go in for it and eat it but as soon as he sees that I'm going to close the door it all kicks off. If I put his blanket in there he'll just rip it to pieces, he's got through a few so I've stopped putting them in with him, just a plastic bed now.
All his training is marker based with a "Yes" then reward, bite roll or wedge and his final reward a ball on a rope.
I feed him his meals in the kennel with the door open but he eats twice as quick because I guess he sees it as a bad place and can't wait to get out.
"I feed him his meals in the kennel with the door open but he eats twice as quick because I guess he sees it as a bad place and can't wait to get out. "
Continue doing that. You'll see when he starts to adjust to the idea.
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006
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Sometimes Steve, there just has to be a consequence for going ape in the crate. Separate of the crate, quiet has to mean something to him. I like to teach mine to settle as a place command outside the crate and look for it to carry over to the crate. When he's in the crate and I tell him to settle, he knows to lay down and shut up.
You may have to think about a way to correct him and interrupt it when he's in the crate though.
With it being worse right after you've trained something, what I've been doing is a little bit of a cool down period before he goes in the crate. A few minutes of just settling down outside the crate instead of looking for him to settle down in the crate.
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