John DeKruyff Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2001
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When your pup wants to bite you, then redirect it onto a ball on a string or a bite tug. You should make it clear to your dog, that it's not ok for him to bite you, but it is ok to bite the prey item.
I do not allow any of my shepherds to even attempt putting their teeth on my skin...even if it is slight. Allowing this is not a good form of play...and the dog becomes conditioned in his thinking that "mmmm-I can place my pearly whites anywhere I want". Utilize a rope or ball etc for play with him. Grabbing the muzzle of the dog until it whines is not the answer to teach "correct" behaviour.This may work for some dog breeds...in that when they bite..they are actually biting themselves. I had only one incident with one of my shepherds with teeth on my skin. One of my young males was so excited to see me..he grabbed my arm..I immediately picked him up by the hair on each side of his neck..with an "ABRUPT NO!!!!!" And tossed him.After that he waited...for me to get to the rope for play.He was testing my authority..and he learned.
Stephan R Weber Webboard User Reg: 02-16-2004
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I am OK with my dog putting their mouth on me when they are not in drive or being pushy. I play mouth games with my dogs. I want them to know how tender my skin is, and just how hard they are allowed to mouth me in a "conversational" or play way.
My girl has no confusion about biting hard in context of bitework.
I would not recommend using a correction like you described. If a person already has dominance issues with the dog, its a great way to get bitten -- especially in the face. Not to mention the damage you can do to the relationship with the dog. There are safer ways for people to reinforce pack structure.
Playful biting gets corrected (gently) and redirected, or the dog gets crated. Pushy biting is an issue better dealt with in the context of your whole relation ship with the dog. Ed had great articles here about redefining your relationship with a dominant dog.
Stephan, I only used that correction once..ever.But it was the right correction for where I was at with my dog...at that moment.The same dog allows me to rub his teeth etc. Well actually all of my dogs are comfortable with that.Okay..lol Years ago I trained my gsd to gently take my hand and guide me home..my eyes were closed..he stopped at every curb.. All in all it really depends upon what type of relationship..you actually have with your dog and the basics you provide in gently training when they are a pup.
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