Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
Offline
Quote: Bob Scott
Not all dogs respond to submission behaviors from other dogs or puppies.
Most dogs respond well to puppies but from your post about your husband's efforts Gracie doesn't sound like one of those dogs.
AND vice versa as well:
The adult Sharpei had been sending "knock it off" messages to the immature GSD that were OBVIOUS to her HUMAN owners for some time...
So, her Canine Communications were NOT SUBTLE (growling & teeth-bearing, maybe snarling, possibly even snapping & nipping) prior to finally launching an ATTACK over a Threshold Breach brought on by over-stimulation & resource-guarding...
Point here being that Owners are Responsible to MONITOR & PROTECT both dogs in any scenario where there is a Conflict of Interest between their pets...
And as Jay has highlighted in a previous post: BOTH DOGS will experience Much LESS Stress and Many FEWER Flare-Ups once they TRUST the OWNER to Manage their Interactions as a FAIR LEADER -- In this particular case, Gracie will Learn that her "leave me alone" signal will be HONORED by Jack ... and Jack will Learn to "let her be" at Gracie's 1st WARNING so that Kathy or Hubby will NOT need to INTERVENE with disciplinary control in order to Prevent Escalation into another FIGHT
But of course I realize that YOU already Know all this, Bob (!!!) I'm just "reiterating the lesson aloud" here so that I won't forget it myself, LOL.
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008
Posts: 1917
Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
Offline
I just want chime in to Candi's excellent post to say--this works.
I'm in the middle of this scenario right now. No fights. But a new pushy cattle dog pup introduced to a stable pack. This pup (like most) is rude--climbing on older pack members, licking faces, play biting, invading space in unwelcome ways.
The response the pup gets from each pack member has been variable--some seem to enjoy puppy play, so I let them (with close monitoring). Others think he's a PIA. So he's having to learn how to interact with individuals on an individual basis.
My basic policy is that any growling or teeth baring is out of bounds--and there are two dogs that need correcting. The pup: leave your sister alone. And the older dog: knock it off, I'll correct the pup, that's not your job.
So far, it's working. There can only be one pack member that gets to correct others---and that's me.
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013
Posts: 1571
Loc:
Offline
Quote: Tracy Collins
I just want chime in to Candi's excellent post to say -- THIS WORKS.
I'm in the middle of this scenario right now. No fights...
But a new pushy cattle dog pup introduced to a stable pack. This pup (like most) is rude -- climbing on older pack members, licking faces, play biting, invading space in unwelcome ways...
The response the pup gets from each pack member has been variable -- some seem to enjoy puppy play, so I let them (with close monitoring)...
Others think he's a PIA...
So he's having to learn how to interact with individuals on an individual basis...
My basic policy is that any growling or teeth baring is out of bounds--and there are two dogs that need correcting. The pup: leave your sister alone. And the older dog: knock it off...
!!! I'll correct the pup, that's not your job !!!
So far, it's working. There can only be one pack member that gets to correct others --- and that's me.
THANKS for adding examples from your own experience, Tracy You were even more Pro-Active right from the start than I was, so as to PREVENT any Escalation to begin with at all, and THAT is definitely worth a Pound of Cure !!!
One point where I might do things just a bit differently, is that I do Not seek to Extinguish QUIET Growling or MINOR Lip-Raising -- This is because I DO Want to allow the "offended" dog a chance to WARN-OFF the "offending" dog at its First LOW Level of annoyance ... My theory here is "that is why God gave Diamondback snakes their RATTLES" to let the Wise Beware and AVOID a BITE, which is preferable to a Strike WITHOUT Warning, and also alerts me to INTERVENE Between DOGS (Only wish I had Wised-Up more fully BEFORE my $230 trip to the Emergency Vet due to ONE ill-timed moment of laxity on the part of Yours Truly!)
When purchasing any product from Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. it is understood
that any and all products sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. are sold in Dunn
County Wisconsin, USA. Any and all legal action taken against Leerburg Enterprises,
Inc. concerning the purchase or use of these products must take place in Dunn
County, Wisconsin. If customers do not agree with this policy they should not
purchase Leerburg Ent. Inc. products.
Dog Training is never without risk of injury. Do not use any of the products
sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. without consulting a local professional.
The training methods shown in the Leerburg Ent. Inc. DVD’s are meant
to be used with a local instructor or trainer. Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. cannot
be held responsible for accidents or injuries to humans and/or animals.
Copyright 2010 Leerburg® Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved. All photos and content on leerburg.com are part of a registered copyright owned by Leerburg Enterprise, Inc.
By accessing any information within Leerburg.com, you agree to abide by the
Leerburg.com Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Re: Bad Situation Brewing
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#398345 - 06/11/2015 01:41 PM 
Top
Previous Topic
Index
