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Quote: Ariane Gauthier
Crap day a normal poop and later thick diarrhea. I think he got some horse feed (by the look of it) life at the barn = lot of stolen apple, carrots, horse poop and some horse feed (left over or spilled)
The horse barn is outside my ken, pretty much. I didn't know how to answer!
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I have read and met others with hyperactive dogs who became calmer on a diet without the starch in kibble.
Let us know if you want help with adding the other ingredients in a good raw diet. (One thing you already know is that a dog who is prone to diarrhea needs, even more than other dogs, to have new ingredients added slowly and gradually.)
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2 days of good poop!
one more question: I use dry liver as working treat/reward. Does it count as something?
did I mention, he has crazy food drive. He would work for dirt
Two days of good log-poops is cause for celebration !!!
About the freeze-dried liver ... is it a purchased or home-made treat?
Is it beef liver? (Beef liver is not high in Vitamin A or D, which are the fat-soluble vitamins that can accumulate to toxic levels.)
If it's purchased, does it have just one ingredient (liver)?
I ask all this so we can sort out what percent of the total diet is liver; whether liver might be a factor in his soft-poop history; whether there are possible undesired ingredients in the dried liver (or, again, whether it's just the one ingredient); etc.
Organ meat should be limited to 10% of the diet. Liver is an extremely good organ meat, and it should be provided, IMHO, but liver shouldn't be more than 5% of the diet.
Can you provide a link to the liver treat, if it's purchased?
So ... the answers to the questions above will help determine how (and if) to adjust the present liver intake and what other organ(s) to add gradually to make a total organ meat intake of no-more-than-10%.
P.S . Food drive is a wonderful thing. It's a gift to dog trainers!
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Well, you might want to try reducing the amount you give, replacing some of them with another good reward (Zuke's Minis are one of my faves, but there are many many good-ingredient purchased rewards).
I've always leaned toward the softer smaller treats like Zuke's Minis, but there are others (homemade, too, of course). I tend also to use a "mixed bag," giving the whole reward thing a slot-machine aspect that can crank up the dog's interest a lot.
Maybe figure out if the liver treats now amount to more than five percent of the diet.
See if you can tie the poop softness to them by reducing them and watching the poop.
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