I'm trying to teach Greta to roll over but am having trouble getting the actual "over" part, lol. I ask her to down, then lure by moving my hand clockwise around and behind her head. She (mostly) will lay on her side, then roll to her back, but she won't complete the actual over part. I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong with the lure, I'm just not sure what.

Maybe I'm not moving my hand fast enough? We are also a little cramped in the kitchen; we usually start there because it's low distraction but maybe this needs to be outside in the grass?

In the videos I've seen online the trainer does this and the dog magically completes the rotation... they all seem to be smaller dogs, but surely that shouldn't be an issue for a young GSD?

Thanks!

I have one dog who makes the roll over naturally very often. So with her it was easy. I just had to capture the right moment, mark and then reward. She now does it without problem on cue.

With the second one I can go the same way, but she is gnerally less active and so it will need more time.

The thir one lies on cue on her side, but the rool over she hasn't got yet. I have a DVD from a reputable european dog dancer. She shows how to teach that trick very exactly. She also begins with a down She herself kneel at the side of the lying dog. if he doesn't lie exactly straight but is on the hind leg unerneath to the left side, then you have to kneel on the right side or vica versa.
From the you curve a bit over tha dog, hold your hand over his snout and make him follow your hand to your side. Simply rush. Do ti in very, very little steps. The dog must know, he can always go back to his original position oras far as he feels comfortable with iLike this he will slowly learn to turn his head and body towards you. until in the end he will roll over. Never try to push or pull him into the desired position. this is for some dogs a long process, you'll need a lot of patience.

If he is used to follow a target stick, then you can use this too. But it's in principle the same method, onlu more comfortable for yourself, as you don1t need to kneel on the floor and later on not to curve that much.

But if your dog does it naturally often enough, then catch these moments as often as you can. It's the much quicker way. Important: Exact timing with marking and of course then reward.. if you do this regularly he will start to produce this behavior more and more.

I apologize for all the errors, lol. Hope I can be understood nonetheless.

My guy had trouble learning roll over.
I combined luring with a really good reward with a little push on his foot to get hm to do it.
Then, big excitement after the flip was completed.
It took a week or so for him to get it.
For this one, it was important for me not to reward a "try", only a completed flip.

Another thing?..it was easier on a rug then on a slippery floor.

Yes, very true. Mine learned it on the lawn, the hard floor they didn't like for the roll over.

Dogs are different, My Bruxinha would never learn it without me splitting the whole exercise in different easier parts, step by step. She has learned it now until lying on her side (playing dead) and her legs already a bit in the air. With pushing her slightly I have tried, but she then immediately stands up. With her this doesn't work.

Thanks Christina & Betty,

We'll give it a try in the grass and I'll attempt to be more patient lol.

Christina, don't apologize for mistakes in a different language! I think you do very well!

Thanks Carolyn! I actually only wanted apologize for the typing errors. The ones i make, because English is not my language I very often don't even discover.