I'm doing schutzhund work with her.I do know the method your talking about.We used it on our male from the very start and it has worked great he is a litter mate to her.I have just recently got the bitch and she wasn't started out that way.I can't complain about her at all she has good hard full grips and tons of drive and has a wonderful fondation on her.I'm just working thru some of the small things now. Thanks Keith
Is so nice to hear most of your dog giving good bite in this board. Hey how do you do it mine does not like to bite not really interested. share if u can thanks
Keith : what foundation was your female strated on? and how old is she ? I am thinking good grips ,but not calm after the bite,is he working in prey or defense ? thanks Peter
Are you planning on titling this dog? When a dog bites its natural instinct is to kill their prey, This is one of the reasons they shake. If you plan on titling this dog, to look good for schutzhund, she will have to learn to control the bite by putting the dog on a table. If she is just a protection dog, you should be okay with the shake because the dog is still crushing his opponet.You just need you a strong decoy guy with experience. I hope this help you
She has been worked in defense very little but takes the pressure very well and I'm now just giving prey bites to calm her down and get her to carry and yes I am going to title her.I'm planning on getting her sch1 in late summer or early fall if every thing will go as planned.She is a very strong bitch and learns very quick.I will be getting her BH in march.
You might want to try putting a leash or rope on the sleeve. You stated this is happening once the sleeve is slipped.... once the sleeve is slipped, the helper is still holding the other end of the line that is connected to the sleeve. (have it connected on the back side, middle of the sleeve). Back pressure on the sleeve at this point may help with the shaking. As the dog is holding the sleeve, and while the helper is putting some pressure on the line that is connected to the sleeve, get your dog to sit. If the dog loosens up the bite, or begins to shake, pressure by the helper on the line. If the dog holds without shaking, no pressure on the line. Praise the dog quietly when holding the sleeve calm, out the dog if after he is holding calm, then begins to shake. As long as holding calm, let him keep it, even if it's 15 minutes or more...
Keith : sounds as if you are on the right track with your dog,i am sure as time goes on and you continue to work in prey then the dog will calm to prey and you will see less shaking.Good luck .Peter
Remember, the reason shaking is penalized in sport is because Schutzhund was designed specifically for GSD's, who don't shake as much. If it were designed for Rotts a nice shake with a growl would be better appreciated. Of course there would be shorter runs too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Just keep in mind that your dog will be scored on a standard that was designed with another breed in mind so it's unnatural to expect it to conform perfectly. I don't mean you can't reduce or eleminate the shaking, just something to remember.
Walt
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Thanks for the information I did try putting a line on the sleeve this past weekend and haveing the helper move along with us as he slipped the sleeve and it seemed to work. Thanks Again
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