I have been training the flinks method on my pup and have seen nice results. I have taken a break since she is teething. When I am building drive I have to have her on lead because when I let her win the toy, that is it she is gone, very possesive never comes back. When I go to crate her after the session I choke her out to get the release. I do not want to pry her mouth open. Will doing this cause a problem later on?? I have noticed that when someone is tugging with her and I am holding the lead and we finish with a choke out she is more intense. If I am working by myself and run her to the crate and do this she just outs it. This is done after she wins and is allowed to carry.

DD

Hey David... just a couple things that jump out at me.

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Originally posted by David DeSimone:
When I am building drive I have to have her on lead because when I let her win the toy, that is it she is gone, very possesive never comes back.

She isn't that old right? like what 6-8 months old? Don't get ahead of yourself and even begin trying off lead. You are only teaching her that going away and not coming back is an option. Personally that is one I would rather they not learn.


When I go to crate her after the session I choke her out to get the release. I do not want to pry her mouth open. Will doing this cause a problem later on?? I have noticed that when someone is tugging with her and I am holding the lead and we finish with a choke out she is more intense. If I am working by myself and run her to the crate and do this she just outs it. This is done after she wins and is allowed to carry.

DD

If your dog is outing on her own then she is not ready to teach the out. While 2 toy is not recommended, with a young dog teasing with one to get the other back is. As the dog matures they learn... "oh, I am not gonna fall for that trick... you take my ball away" It is one of those hand is quicker than the eye moves. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

The choke out may make her seem 'more intense' but it does not lead to clear understanding of the out. The intensity comes from hectic frustration.

Also, when you mentioned the off lead part, She should be willing to come into your arms. Possesive or not. I know exactly what you are talking about in your girl, Blitz used to do it as well... get a toy and go halfway across the yard and just watch you like "well, now what are you going to do about THIS" It must come from Dad's side (atze) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

If you haven't seen the newest tape "preparing the young dog" I really think you should. I have to say it is the best tape I have seen yet! Ed goes into more detail than he was able to on the drive focus and grip tape.

Deanna,

I will get that tape. I know she is not reay for the out. What I am not sure of is how to get the toy from her after the game is over. She will never release the toy unless I choke her out she will carry forever. She is 6 months old now and looking nice. I have a feeling the possesiveness will be worse since she has had very little bites and lots of frustration lately. Do you think the choke out will lead to problems?

DD

One more thing she does come into my arms and lets me calmly stroke her so no problem there either.

DD