I have a question.

For the SchH I blind search, just how many attempts is the dog allowed to begin the exercise?
At what number is the dog suppose to be excused?

I'm asking because this is what occurred:
At the start of the exercise, the handler sends the dog towards the blind. The dog goes instead to the dumbell rack and plays with a dumbell.
The handler has to go retrive the dog, as it won't return on a voice command.
The dumbells are removed, and the handler restarts the exercise. The dog again goes to the now empty dumbell rack and knocks it over - the handler again has to physically retrive the dog as it won't return to him.
The handler yet again sends the dog - it simply balks and does not leave his side.
Finally, after the fourth start, the dog goes to the blind. It spends most of the bark and hold looking for the handler.
The rest of the protection phase was equally as bad.

Final score in Protection: 94

If only I had it on film! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

The dog of course was out of one of the SchH organizations judges ( not the judge doing the grading, but the club president, who is an important judge in the organization) breeding. :rolleyes:

Schutzhund and politics that is why there are not twice the number of people that there should be in the game.

Hmm,I believe you are allowed 3 attempts to call your dog back to you....


Sue

Yes. According to the rule book " If the dog does not return after three commands, protection is terminated because of disobedience" .

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And what organization was this Will?

Will
If that was on the west coast. I heard about it from one of our club members that was there. She said the whole crowd was in shock.
Ron

 Quote:

" If the dog does not return after three commands, protection is terminated because of disobedience" .

How many times is that allowed in the routine?

The reason I ask is, being relatively new to the sport (I'm training my first Sch dog), I recently went to a trial judged by an SV judge to see how the "new" rules would be implemented, and how they would be scored.
I didn't learn much.

The only Sch 1 dog in the trial ran the cold blind, but then ran to the parking lot instead of the find blind. The handler called the dog back 3 times to start over. When it finally made it to the find blind after a wide circle, it did a passable b&h, jumped around a lot, then needed 3 commands for the call out...and sat almost a foot in front of the handler. Bite was chewy, needed several commands to out, bothered the helper. On the transport the dog would not stay in heel position and jumped to the sleeve side of the helper and remained there throughout that exercise. The handler was constantly giving the dog extra commands throughout the routine.

With little experience, but having read the rules, I would have thought this dog would fail. But the team was given an 83.
Since this dog had already failed tracking maybe the judge was just being nice...?