I am training my dogs as usual at TOP's kennels.I adore the place and what they have done for my dogs and myself.So I rather not ask them and get them involved.

A few years back my daughter bought a pup from what I call I complete scum bag of a person and *trainer* They saw her coming and ran with the money.She had sucker stamped on her forehead.

Well, the pup had to be put down after it's training at 6 months with this breeder/trainer after being sent back for a *tune-up*

She now has a very nice pup and wants it done correctly this time. Good breeder imho. But the area we live in is quite small and the chances of her running in to this person is very high.

How can we find out with out burning bridges how to stay clear of this person? We have checked her website and no luck or info.

My dd is young and made a huge mistake when this first happened.I am not making excuses but she at 18 had to learn the hard way.

But I rather her or myself not to run into this person again let alone in a club situation.Any idea's for us? She really would like to try her hand at this.

Yes,I know I am playing mother hen but I rather step in this time so she my enjoy her pup and training.

I had no clue where to post this. Sorry if I am in the wrong area again.

Emma,

What would it matter if the "scum bag" showed up. Your daughter did nothing wrong, and the likelyhood of them showing up is low. Even if they do show up, your daughter should just tell the story as factually as possible. Unless this "breeder" has a following, I wouldn't worry about it.

There is a trainer here in town that took my money and didn't train the dog. I love it when she shows up at an event I am at. I spend a significant amount of time asking for my money back. Hopefully in front of her current clients. It isn't my problem, it is hers.

Emma, I've noticed there are a lot of a**holes in the dog business, lol, and everybody's bound to stumble across one some time or another. I've delt with one myself, but you just have to take the experience as a lesson learned. Don't sweat the small stuff.

Emma, I re-read your posts twice and I still don't understand what is it that you want us to do. I have a feeling you are dying to tell us who this bad person is, which would be a bad idea, as she is not here to defend herself. I understand your maternal instict to protect your child and your child's tender age. Maybe this experience could teach your daughter how to stand up for herself, a quality that will serve her for the rest of her life.

Yes dear Emma, avoidance is not the solution. Let your daughter train her dog with experienced people of her choosing. So What if the 'other' person is around or not. Achieving the goal of a beautifully trained dog will be an accomplishment in itself. Life is tough and she has to grow some thick skin, on her own and with your encouragement. The past is the past, forgive, forget and start anew.

i'm just curious about the original dog. why did it have to be "put down?" was it because of the training and the tune up? or some other reason? unless the dog had a genetic defect, i don't think i would have been so hasty in destroying the first dog. believe me, plenty of dogs have been messed up by poor training. just curious.....just asking.

Renee, I am very sorry if I gave of that impression. I would not not name names. As a horse breeder and trainer I rather hear right from the person's mouth myself.

I was trying to get across that my DD at 18 had a huge mistake that she paid for dearly. You don't just trust anyone and she learned her lesson well.

She is older now but would like to just go about her business in a happy way. All I will say is this person was totally ruthless to her and the dog.

She is just trying to make sure she is NOT supporting anything she might have to do with a this person is all.

The pup was put to sleep due to purely brutal training <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The pup was only six months old and was returned to my DD with a burnt neck and broken ribs and a collapsed lung and a few teeth missing.

My DD thought she was sending the pup for basic training that was included in the purchase price. So she took advantage of it. She was told it would be starting long down and stays etc.

She did not live with me at the time. But we paid for the pup to stay at the vets for over a month to do whatever he could <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

It was just plain cruel at that point as our vet said to keep trying he got infection and ever possible compilation you can have happened.

I myself don't even do the sport. I love to watch it but I always have taken rescue GSD. I am happy with that. They need a home and my husband and I need the company. Most rescues hold a certain place in my heart.

Sorry I made this so confusing. Lesson learned not to type late at night when I can't sleep.

Call the contact person of the groups you are considering to train with. Ask if this person trains there, and if so, how often. (some members NEVER show)

Dealing out the hypothetical here really won't help your daughter. It is sad what has happened, and I understand your worries, but the above recommendation is the best I can do for you.

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