John,
You've seen me and my own hard dog train on our field several times, with me escalating corrections, going through E collar after E collar until I basically have to use one that catches his fur on fire to get his attention.
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I hated to do that, but it worked and I've gotten a grip on many of the training problems that Fetz and I had as a team.
Training a handler hard dog is a pain, but the basic training concepts remain absolutely the *same* - only the level of correction is changed. And if the appropriate level of correction ( or motivation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )is not enough for the dog - no real training is occurring.
For the missing of the corners: Two ideas.
One. try laying a small scent pad at the corner, 4 or five steps standing still, and then step out in the new rirection.
second try, coming to the corner, stop, walk backwords (back track) 2 or 3 steps, and make your corner. He will start watching for the corner all the time, instead of only after the scent disappears.
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