Ashley, If you breed her to working lines, neither the show people nor the working people will want the pups. Chances are they wont have the "right stuff" to work, and they wont be "pretty" enough for show. AKC has many wonderful activities for you. From the looks of the site you could do very well in many of them.

I don't want to breed just to be breeding. I want to breed to produce a better dog.I am still learning about the breed and have a long way to go!

John~ Thanks for the info! If the people that you reccommeded have a wed site, I'll find them!

Echo's previous owner had alot to do with how this girl has turned out.When she brought the dog to me, she had a lunge whip with her. When I asked what it was for, she said "This is how we calm her down!" I was mortafied! She wasn't allowed to bark,play, run around etc.I have taken her training slow and we are working on confidence building. Maybe this is why I didn't see much prey drive in her. I wanted to do some PT with her but after sitting back and evaluating her, I don't think that she would be a good canidate.I am not interested in showing so maybe she will just be my "demo" dog. She does do extremely well in OB so maybe I'll work slowly towards her CGC and leave it at that! Thanks to everyone for the advice!

Will~ I will get back to the PM in the AM!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Even IF (notice the if) her temperament was genetically perfect, she would pass on the less than desirable traits while caring for the puppies. That's why the female passes on more than 50% in the temperament department. It sounds like you have done lots of talking with show breeders, just because it sounds like they have told you the same things I was told before I realized what was happening. She has gone through a lot, so why not give her a break and spay her?

The problem with wanting to produce a better dog is that you have to start with the best dogs to begin with. Otherwise your "better" won't really be better, just more of what is already out there. A rescue show line dog is not the best you can find. As you have seen, most people shouldn't own a Mal, so there is no need for more of the same. To attract good homes you have to show that your dogs can do something first and build a reputation before you even think about breeding. A quirky rescue show line dog is not the best way to start a reputation (at least one you want). Tell the show breeder you will not be using their stud and see if things change. I haven't dealth with this breeder, but if they are similar to what I have come across then you will see their true colors when they know they won't get any money from you.

Most of the mentioned kennels have web site. Just google the kennel name. Take your time and make sure that you don't fall into the same traps that I did.