Cocerning puppy selection:

I tell people this, focus on what exactly you want a puppy for. If sport is goal, Police, show or what have you. Then find the breeder that breeds exclusively for that. The well rounded breeders, have some pups that do well and many that don't excell. You simply can't consistantly create pups that cover everything. Someone like Ivan with Django has bred enough of his own breedings to establish a genetic map of what you can expect from a pup. He wants to produce high level sport dogs with good agression. I have worked a few of his dogs and found them to be very good dogs. One was a little lanky, the other a monster in size.

Ivan knows his genetics well enough now, that the 4 or 5 male should be very consistant with the 1 2 or 3 male. He can also, with the knowledge of his lines select those pups in orders that specifically designed for their handlers ability and have nothing to do with best to worst puppy. That's a good breeder. So wait if you like for the next Django litter or take this 4 or 5 pup. Not sure you'll see a difference??/

Bryan

Bryan,
Thanks, you cleared up alot. I have very few mals working down here in NC and no body to confer with on matters such as this. There are GSD folks a plenty with tons of knowledge to pass. Just curious, do you train primarily in Sch? I have a few questions regarding Malinois and USA, such as papered vs. non. I finally got my 3 yr old bitch registered with the CKC. I'm not sure how the USA looks upon this registry, shes ready to start titling and I did'nt want to sign her up as a mix.

Me personally, I train simply generic routines for future Police Dog donations. However, this new girl I will have in tonight, I may guide towards Mondio or whatever. Concerning, papers verse Non papered lines, I really like the papered lines my friend in Holland has helped acquire. Mostly Perle De Tourbiere, We train together in the states, he visits plenty. His knowledge on the lines is invaluable. He has titled dogs in KNPV, IPO and trained many Police dogs. So he has the experience with the genetics I need to find out about. Kind of lucky for me.

I have never truly found much consistantcy in the Non-Papered lines to be honest. Some of the NVBK dogs I have worked lately seem a little over the top, and could be a danger in my opinion. Can't comment a whole on them, other than the few I've seen and worked. I didn't like them. Of course, there must some very nice too.

If you have specific questions on Mal lines, I can forward them to my friend who is here now until September.

Bryan

Charles,

Where are you in NC?? I know of a guy in NC that knows a bit about Malinois that I am sure you could contact with questions.

PM me if interested

Charles,

question, You mentioned that you intend to do USA. Why are you concerned with a dog that has the propensity to become sleeve-happy? In SchH routines, a "sporty" dog is not necessarily a bad thing. Additionaly, whether or not a dog is equipment focused, has alot to do with the individual training that it receives. Yes, genetics can play a role here, but you can shape a dog to lean more to either side.

just a thought.

also, I agree with Bryan's above assesment of Ivan's breedings.

I purchased my Malinois site unseen. She was the last pup of the litter, and was what I could afford. Most people would say I am nuts for making a purchase like that, but I beg to differ! My dog is a perfect match for me. What are the odds? I think a dog can be perfect for it's owner even in a scenario like mine. It all comes down to how the owner goes about bonding with the dog, as well as training it. If the owner is willing to spend the proper time working with the dog, odds are (IMO) the puppy will work out. If the dog is neglected even the slightest little bit, then it becomes an issue. I wouldn' trade my dog for anything.