I can tell you some specifics about the previous litter.
1) Hips were ALL good!
2) I have placed three males into police work and they had not even attained 2 years of age. All were trained to the Psp/DHI standard.
3)i also placed a female into narcotics work from this litter.
4) all had excellent prey drive
5) all the males had decent shrpness and good environmentally.
6) Maybe a bit small on the average, not below standard but would be described as the lower end of the GSD standard.
7) About half were bi-color and half were sables

This is pretty good for a GSD litter for working dogs. I know of very few litters where the dogs had the combination of all good hips and this number of working dogs. There is one male I have not seen myself but the owner believes him to be outstanding in the work. Also a good looking dog from his pics.
I would recommend this litter to my club memebers for a working prospect.
You might say that I am prejudiced, but those that know me will tell you that I am not really a breeder. I am a user of the end products of breeding and don't really care if my dog produces or not. If he doesn't he is just as valuable to me as a great police dog. I breed him for one reason and one alone. I want pups that will be able to go out and work. I keep a pup from every litter of his in my control w/ only one exception (a small litter where the owner begged to be able to keep a pup herself but had committed the other two).
CJ has produced so well that around here if there are pups on the ground they are spoken for.

There are numerous reputable kennels in the U.S. that breed quality working dogs born in the states. Some post on this board if you look around. The best way to get a good quality working dog is by word of mouth. The quality breeders will be selective in the type of dogs they breed and who they sell to. The bad ones will just breed for the sake of making money. Eventually word gets around about the quality or problems and they go out of business or open up under a different kennel name.

Sometimes I have the feeling that we talk about a third blood line of the GSD. I think everybody agrees with the Show Dog. Then the Working lines. But it looks like that the 'working line' is divided in 'sport dogs' and 'real working dogs'. So that makes it much more difficult to pick out a dog. I'm not familar with the Chech lines but I follow the dicussion with interest to be able to find my next 'real working dog'. I also start to look at the pedigrees of Ed's stud dogs to get an idea about strong dogs.

I guess you really have to decide what you want in a dog. Many people have told me that a high point dog is not necessarily a really tough dog. There are things a dog with a lot of fight drive will do that may lose him points. When I eventually abandon the show lines I'll probably go to a dog like Ed breeds. The high point dogs are a lot like the better working show dogs (High drive, bidability) than the really tough dogs. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Melissa, I have heard only good things about Todd's dogs and kennel if that helps. In addition he offers an excellent warranty on the pups.

Orry hause antverpa was the ultimate sport dog but Ive been told was not tough at all.Pure sport dogs can compete in schutzhund with alot of fire an inensity and be ideal but not be suited for police work.I think these type dogs are a far cry from working showlines.

Melissa, What do you want??
Sport Dog?
PPD?
Personnel protection?

Sport dog, the Antverpta line is fantastic in my opinion. I have a female pup out of Scott Vom Haus Antverpta. She shows great promise at almost
-7- months. Her father most likely not bite if not shown a sleeve. Great line for sport dogs.

Todd's dogs I would think fall in line with the midde of the spectrum. CJ is proberly on of the top Police Service dogs in the United States. Todd has a plan on breeding better and better Czech dogs here in the USA. Kevin I don't know but would trust from reading his post. Honest people are hinest about everything they say or do

As for needing a dog to do police work, I don't think Todd or Kevin would sell you a pup they thought was suited for police work if you didn't intend to use it for that purpose.

If I could get a pup from Tood, I would trust his judgement on the pup best suited for me by telling him what the K-9 will be used for.

If you want a sport pup, private e-mail for a good sport line pup connection.

Still think, if you can get a pup out of CJ from Todd. You won't be disappointed.

What ever you decide to get, decide before getting a pup. Make sure the pup is suite dfor your diseried goals. Not anyone else's.

I hope to be able to breed my female out of the Antverpa line wto Todd's line to get the middle spectrum of K-9. Hope I can.

Darn, I got long winded.

Good luck in your choice.

I would agree in regard to Orry and dogs on the top end of the sport. I was really refering more to the middle of the road working dogs. Dogs like Lasso Kampchen and Ory Zollernblut who are high drive and very trainable. In the right hands they can compete with all but the best working dogs as far as points are concerned.

Thank you everyone for your opinions and Kevin for the insight as to the successes of the last litter. I did agree to purchase a puppy from this breeding and am very excited!