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#48920 - 08/04/2004 01:25 AM |
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I was wondering if anyone knows anything about a sort of scar tissue forming around a dogs intetines? In the membrane around them. They were constricting them.I have a black lab that has had this happen. He has lost a significant amount of weight also.He had them cut out, and the vet told me she hasn't seen anything like it. She also said that she doesn't know if they will come back, and I think they are growing back now. I am getting very frusterated as he is very sick, not eating and has the diarhea(sp). He is way to good of a dog to let this happen,and I don't want to see him suffer either. He is also, for more info ,only 3yrs old. I am stumped, I just don't know what to do. Thanks for any info that you may have. Brandon
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#48921 - 08/04/2004 01:29 AM |
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oops wrong spot for this question sorry. If i knew how to move it I would. Sorry once again Brandon
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#48922 - 08/04/2004 02:25 PM |
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These may be what is called strictures, development of fiberous tissue around the GI tract. Once you get them, they tend to reoccur, at least in people. People get them when they have problems with their GI system, as in Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Chrone's Disease. Dogs can get these two diseases as well. Has your dog ever been evaluated for these? Notice a lot of gut problems, etc? Here is a link:
GI link for dogs
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#48923 - 08/04/2004 02:50 PM |
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Oh, if he does have strictures, he will have to be evaluated right away, cause this could lead to an obstruction, which will make him a very very sick dog. In the meantime, is he pooping? that means he is still gettin stuff through, but he could have diarrhea even with an obstruction; ie it could be partial. I would keep him on fluids only, pedilyte to keep his electrolyte balance (sorry don't know the dosage in dogs) and broth. What has been his work up so far? What did the vet suspect? What do you feed? Did he have an endoscopy?
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#48924 - 08/04/2004 09:52 PM |
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And to give Brandon further bad news, surgery to relieve strictures can result in adhesions later, requiring yet more surgery.
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#48925 - 08/05/2004 01:13 AM |
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Will, you took the words right out of my mouth! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Brandon, I think you need to get your dog back to the vet for a work up immediately! What Melissa was saying about the obstruction is that the stool can be stuck and unable to pass, but there can be fluid and other soft fecal matter still slipping around the impacted area, hence the diarreah. This is very serious and needs to be addressed.
Good luck, I hope that it all turns out ok.
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#48926 - 08/05/2004 02:11 AM |
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Thanks for the info I will make an apointment for tomorrow. If these adhesions keep coming back, what is the long term solution?? He has had a whole panel of tests done on him from heart worm to lyme disease. He is not eating much but always has water. I never thought of the pedialite. I will do that,but I think I am at a point where things are not going to help to much. The vet did not sound to confident when we last talked. I am going to keep plugging away until he(dog) tells me that he doesn't want to go on anymore. I hate to keep putting him through this. He went from about 75lbs to about 45lbs in about 9 months. I have been battling this since last summer and he has not shown much improvement. Only for a short time, for a month or so. He gained about 10 lbs and then went back down. I am going to talk to the Vet tomorrow. Thanks for all the ideas I hate think of more surgeries but if thats what has to happen thats what has to happen! I will do that for him.If he will get better from them.Thanks again, Brandon
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#48927 - 08/05/2004 11:18 AM |
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Unfortunately, as Will said, surgery creates adhesions, which requre more surgery...you get the gist. Usually, what is done to take care of strictures is a tube is placed in down the throat, and a balloon is inflated to expand and break up the strictures. That's why I asked if he had had an endoscopy (ask your vet about this procedure). It is much less invasive than surgery, and there is a lower risk for the adhesions (adhesions=overgrowth of tissue on the outside of an organ, strictures=overgrowth of tissue that surrounds an organ). If this were my dog, I would request an endoscopy, and then if there is a suspicion of adhesions, then I would ask for a laproscopic surgery. You may have to go to a university vet school for this.
However your vet may have already eval'd him for this and decided on another clinical path. Keep in mind, tho, I am not a doc, and you should follow your vet's recommendations.
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#48928 - 08/06/2004 02:19 AM |
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Thanks Mellisa you are very helpful. I have never even heard of many of these things. I will talk to him again and see what he says about your ideas and so on. Thanks again Brandon
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