workinggsd wrote 06/16/2002 08:54 PM handler hard #53423 - 06/16/2002 08:54 PM
workinggsd Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2002 Posts: 23 Loc: Offline	I've often heard that czech dogs tend to be handler hard. What exactly does this mean? Also that they don't take unfair corrections well. Does this mean that a handler hard dog will turn and bite it's handler if it feels that it has been unfairly corrected or that it will be sensitive and soft to an unfair correction? How does this relate to handler sensitivity? Thanks
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workinggsd wrote 06/18/2002 05:59 PM Re: handler hard [Re: workinggsd ] #53424 - 06/18/2002 05:59 PM
workinggsd Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2002 Posts: 23 Loc: Offline	Many breeders advertise their dogs as handler hard. If this is aggression towards handler then how is this good? Does this show an extra dominant dog?
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Pete Felknor wrote 06/18/2002 06:04 PM Re: handler hard [Re: workinggsd ] #53425 - 06/18/2002 06:04 PM
Pete Felknor Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 495 Loc: Deerfield, WI Offline	workinggsd-- My understanding of "handler hard" is a dog that can take a strong correction without going down noticeably in drive. Plain and simple. Others may feel free to correct me, but I'd say that a dog that is unwilling to tolerate an unfair correction would be showing more dominance than handler hardness. You can have a very hard dog that wouldn't even think of challenging its handler, no matter how bone-headed (bone-handed?) that handler might be. Pete Felknor
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Chuck Fantasia wrote 06/18/2002 06:40 PM Re: handler hard [Re: workinggsd ] #53426 - 06/18/2002 06:40 PM
Chuck Fantasia Moderator Reg: 08-08-2001 Posts: 1174 Loc: NJ Offline	That makes two Pete. I agree.
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Butch Crabtree wrote 06/18/2002 06:56 PM Re: handler hard [Re: workinggsd ] #53427 - 06/18/2002 06:56 PM
Butch Crabtree Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2002 Posts: 966 Loc: louisiana/texas Offline	Hey guy's, Pete:  Quote: My understanding of "handler hard" is a dog that can take a strong correction without going down noticeably in drive. Plain and simple. Crabtree: Pete & Chuck, I agree with you both. I also think genetics plays a big roll in this behavior, what do you two think?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Butch Crabtree kennel vom Avoyelles
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Pete Felknor wrote 06/18/2002 07:08 PM Re: handler hard [Re: workinggsd ] #53428 - 06/18/2002 07:08 PM
Pete Felknor Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 495 Loc: Deerfield, WI Offline	Butch, I will kinda wimp out here and answer by saying, "Probably but not always" (i.e. you can have a very handler-hard dog sired by parents that are both soft... not likely, but it could happen). We need the breeders to weigh in. Ed could answer this question in his sleep. Pete
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