I have a solid black 8 month male GSD in for long term training. I was fortunate to be able to work with this pup since he was 7 weeks old.

His father is a Sch III solid black titled here in Canada Czech Dog crossed into DDR Black Female.

The combo clicked and Jake the Puppy is outstanding. With luck the dog and I will be able to make it to the top of whatever sport the owner and I chose once all the basic foundations are set in place.

There are good and bad dogs in any program. Perhaps you will be rooked on an Eastern European dog but you can be taken by an North American or any breeder anywhere so to point at the Eastern breeders is perhaps wrong.

There is a rule to apply whenever buying any dog.

RESEARCH

JC

thanks, does anybody know of a kennel near atlanta,ga that has czech dogs ?

Originally posted by dj:
by not having a sport background would they tend to have less prey drive? DJ,
I have heard that some of the czech lines have less prey drive because of this. I dont think that all of the czech dogs are an example of this but it does make you think. I have never had an experience with a czech dog but, I mean, look at the PS kennel. They are government funded and have a clear vision of their program which is to only breed police type dogs. And what do police dogs have to have? (fight drive, agression and defense coupled with a natural suspicion to strangers). That is just what they breed for. Those are their standards. They also go back on the old DDR lines which were very good dogs in East Germany until the wall came down and alot of the DDR dogs were ruined by the influence of show lines. But, I see alot of breeders of czech lines introducing the old DDR blood to their breeding program which will bring the thick bone and big blocky heads. (which I like). I, personally have a dog that is mostly WGR and belgium working lines with a DDR influence and I could not ask for a better dog. I am sold!!

for those of you that own a czech dog, how does there prey match up?

Czech dogs have very good prey drive, it is a total load of crap that they don't.

I've owned a number of dogs over the last handful of years, all have been Czech or Czech crosses. On average, I have never seen better balanced, high drive (INCLUDING PREY DRIVE), civil working dogs. They have prey drive, maybe not hyped crazy prey monster psycho prey drive, but neither do most good working line GSDs.

Good prey yes, just like most good working lines, low prey NO. Super hetic prey NO, like most good GSDs.

You guys are working off of rumor and assumptions here. There will always be dogs that are not as good as most, and when it comes to Czech dogs low prey is one problem IN CRAP DOGS that can be a flaw, but it is very rare and happens only with crap breedings to dogs without prey drive. Imagine that?? Just like any other bloodline of GSDs. Take working DDR lines, one of their flaws is NERVE PROBLEMS. Do they all have nerve problems, NO. Just the crappy ones.

So, one more time, Czech dogs have very good prey drive. They don't often have the flaw of super high HECTIC prey drive. Different things guys. . .

Realistic flaws are more commonly rank/dominance problems, overly sharp dogs, low defensive thresholds, and survival behaviors that tend to lean to Fight instead of Flight in the same nervy dogs. Not good working dogs, and not good family dogs. I HAVE seen some of these come out of good breedings. That is a realistic problem with Czech lines. NOT LOW PREY DRIVE!

vancamp;
"Realistic flaws are more commonly rank/dominance problems"

This is one flaw when I pick a pup that i want to avoid if you are referring to the dog testing the owner. I dont want one that will constantly be testing me for dominance once I establish it,

How would you go about to avoid this... look for the puppy that when rolled over doesnt fight it and is calm?

You find a good breeder who know what he/she is doing and let them pick for you. They know the parents, they should know the whole pedigree, they spend the most time with the litter.

Czech dogs aren't the only ones that will test you.

Vancamp posted:

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Czech dogs aren't the only ones that will test you.

Yep, as usual Robert is correct. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Any Working Line GSD will test you given the right conditions. Just ask anyone who has handled a few dogs over the years. Some handlers even enjoy it.

As posted earlier by Vancamp, do your homework, find a honest breeder, let them help you find the right K-9 for you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Who knows their dogs better then the breeder.

Hey, I have been gone for a while. Missed all the fun. Questions about Czech dogs??? Whatcha need?

Glad to see you had a safe trip.
Why the interest in czech dogs? Todd, give us your view!!

Inquiring minds want to know!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />