I am not crying boohoo Brad.. just proving a point.

And now comes the moderator duties... Please stick to the original topic.

If you would like to start a topic about breeding qualifications then feel free to open a new thread.

So all of my litters in the past and future are bred to those rules, so Cinto is titled + breedsurvey I am sorry. Silly me. I should have just assumed you went by the SV rules. I mean after all you are in Germany. Please forgive me. Won't happen again. I will for now assume anytime you post something it is absolute fact. Thank you for clearing that up.

Brad wrote: I wish all breeders would follow the SV qualifications for breeding, such as Jutta. Why would a breeder not follow SV guidelines? If you care about the working Shepherd get with the program. If it takes too much time or money to title your dogs then don't breed. It is simple as that. Hmm, if I didn't know better, that was a shot at people like Ed, Kevin, and myself. I am pretty sure that Ed doesn't title his females. Kevin bred his CJ to my untitled bitch, and obviously I breed untitled bitches.

The attitude of you should breed only titled dogs is so easy to take when you sit on the sidelines. I mean nothing ever happens to preclude a dog from getting titled, right? You know like the dog getting hurt and unable to compete. So does that mean they are no longer part of the gene pool? Also, no one would ever stoop so low as to title a dog on their home field with their home helper because the dog was terrified to go anywhere else and then breed it, right? Give me a break. In a perfect world, all dogs would be titled before being bred. Not only that they would all be titled on a strange field, with a strange helper. Hell in a perfect world the show line and the working line could lilve together as one(can't we all just get along)...lol

I guess 70-70-80 and into the breeding box(gee, can't think of where I heard that).

Since this has turned into a pissing match and not what I was trying to finout with this thread I will open another one.