Debbie,

If you see a ban on any collar it is going to be the prong. In fact it has happened several places already. The potential for damage between the prong and slip collar is almost the same. Properly used there is no difference. People tend to over correct less on a prong, but that is a technique issue.

I have been training with a slip for over 20 years, and have taught many people to use them properly. I have never seen or heard of a first hand experience of a dog injured with one.

Be carful what you wish for, you may get it. AKC would already like to see prongs banned.

Richard
I read an article about dogs that were "trained on, not pulled around on" slip collars. These dogs "100 total" were later autopsied ( I cant spell )after their deaths. While it wasnt the cause of death all but one had some form of trachea damage. The owners never saw the signs of this damage on thier dogs. I cant remeber who published this study but have seen it many places. Maybe someone on here can help me out. Me personally I find it difficult to make sure the collar goes on the right way and then Im on the right side of the dog and the collar doesnt move around. Its a bit like juggling and I cant juggle. I know it can be used effectively Ive just always found it a lot easier to use a pinch. At AKC events you already cant use a pinch but you can use a slip. From what I understand thats always the way its been. I dont have your years of experience but I already find it frustrating trying to teach people how to give a correction with a pinch. I cant imagine doing it with a slip.

Larry
If you only have 5 links on your collar than its too big. Go down a size. I think that X-large was made for a horse or mythical beast ( Hope that guy doesnt get handler aggresive ). I use the large on big labs and goldens or bigger. But mostly I use the small. I use a small on my doberman. They also make micro pinches but they are to small for your needs. They are hand made and expensive.

Lets not advocate banning ANYTHING.


Banning is stupid.

Excuse my guys, I was in a bit of a hurry when I typed that, guess I should have given the wording a little more thought....didn't mean to offend or cause any distress to anyone....sorry. I do know of dogs that have sustained damage from choke collars. I prefer to not use them on my dogs.

Now is that better....

Debbie