okay.....i'm dumb about this. does "coated" mean "long-haired" or something entirely different? i always used to think it referred to the length of the hair, but now i see mention of the lack of undercoat. i think i have to agree with the others, though, in terms of being okay to train and work, but not desirable for breeding. in other words, if you happen to end up with a hairy dog that's a good one......go with it, but don't perpetuate it.
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Patricia,
From what I remember, there are 3 types of coats; stock, long stock, and a coat. The last is a disqualifying fault, since the dog has no undercoat to protect itself in the winter OR the summer; the dogs get colder and hotter faster because they lack the insulation to keep heat in or out.
Practically, I can understand this being a fault. I have a coated GSD, and while she doesn't seem to notice the dry cold as much, the damp cold makes her shiver.
But from a genetic standpoint, isnt a coat a recessive trait? And wouldn't you not want in your breeding stock a dog that had an expression of a recessive trait in the bloodlines, for fear of other undesirable characteristics tagging along, so to speak? I dont know much about breeding, or genetics for that matter, but I seem to recall that recessives bring along more than its fair share of problems.
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yes, it is a recessive gene that both have to carry. If you tried to throw out every dog who had the recessive for coat, I doubt that there would be many dogs left! The show breeders seem to be less concerned about it, and I have seen dogs who were borderline - or maybe just trimmed to borderline win over normal at a conformation show - one of only 2 I ever attended!!! There are alot worse genes to worry about than an occassional coat. And no, I would not breed a coated dog - I would put it in a pet home with permanant limited registration.
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Would my pup be classified as a longcoat? Our 5mth. old male GSD has a different kind of coat than I am familiar with. He has white lines about 3in. wide that end at the top of the shoulders and at the lower elbow. This hair is 2 or 3 inches long. His saddle is a full black cape, but its sort of wavy. His tail is also covered with long wavy hair as are the haunches. We also own a full sister to our male that is 3yrs. old. She doesn't have any wavy hair, all stock coat. To my knowledge there aren't any longcoats in the bloodlines(west german show) but I'm not an expert. Any clues? I would be grateful for any input. Both of these dogs have an undercoat. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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