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#69080 - 01/21/2005 10:16 PM |
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Does spaying a bitch have the same effect on aggression or temperment (sp?)as neutering a male before the age of two? After the age of two years?
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#69081 - 01/21/2005 11:44 PM |
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It increases their relative testosterone (?) level, so it may have an effect on dominance.
But dominance is a behaviour pattern that is learned as well, during the formative years, so you will not turn a submissive dog into a rank monster.
I suspect the effects are negligable. Just like when women go through menopause, they don't turn into raving, fight-club wannabee, trolling lunatics, right?
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Re: Spaying effect on bitches temperment
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#69082 - 01/22/2005 12:07 AM |
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Does this mean that the male Doberman pup that I am adopting will not be too dominant because he is already neutered at 3 months? My Luke is pretty dominant, but will tone it down when told to "behave". Hopefully this new pup can pick up some of these good behaviours from my GSD, that and alot of obedience. I am pretty curious about how this neutering will affect the pup though.
BTW, are Dobermans supposed to have webbed feet in the front? This little guy has these HUGE feet w/ webbed toes, other than this he looks like any other normal red doberman puppy. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
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#69083 - 01/22/2005 12:07 AM |
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#69084 - 01/22/2005 11:00 AM |
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My GSD was spayed at 2 1/2 years. She seems the same to me. She's dominant with other dogs especially with females. I mean dominant in that she plays rough and does not back down, does not submit during play etc. She only fights in defense, doesn't attack other dogs. Anyway she's just one dog. Maybe others have seen a change in temperment. I just haven't seen it with this dog.
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#69085 - 01/22/2005 11:04 AM |
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Originally posted by Kevin Mobley:
Does this mean that the male Doberman pup that I am adopting will not be too dominant because he is already neutered at 3 months? The most rank dog I ever met, and unfortunately owned, had been neutered at a young age.
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#69086 - 01/22/2005 01:48 PM |
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Thanks, since I have had no experience with Dobermans as a breed, and also none with animals that have been neutered I was curious as to whether or not I was going to see something totally different than I expected. Just work the obedience and socialization.
BTW, can someone define "Rank" for me? I know the difference between temperment and disposition in that a dog can have the temperment that it was bred to have, yet just have a nasty disposition towards all things that he is not familiar with. If a dog is "rank" does that mean that he had a nasty disposition? This way I have a full understanding of terms here. Again thanks.
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#69087 - 01/22/2005 03:09 PM |
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A rank dog, to the best of my understanding, is a dog that will activly fight you for leadership. This is not the same type of dog that, because of permissive leadership from the handler, assumes the role of pack leader because they feel 'well, somebody's gotta be boss here, you sure as heck aren't, guess I have to step up to the plate'. NOr is it neccessarly the dog that growls when you tell him to get off the couch; this type of dog has a misunderstanding about pack order, and be easily trained. A rank dog will always think he or she has a right to that couch, and will test you every once in a while to see if you ore on your toes, and if you'renot, it is time to take over.
A rank dog needs to be with only the most experienced of owners. You must always be on top with these dogs, one slip, and you are in very serious trouble, 'cause they are always watching and waiting.
I would never have a rank dog, so it is outside my scope of experience; there are others here that can answer more completly, and correct any errors.
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I've only had one truly rank dog in my lifetime. I got real tired of him sticking out his tongue after I'd have to make him say "uncle". The Wills and VCs in this world enjoy dogs like that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Ha ha ha. . .LOL
It is one of the faults in a dog's temperament that I will live with if the dog's other traits make up for it. I'm lucky enough to have a dog like that now, and a female no less which is rare.
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