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Petra Simmons wrote 07/26/2005 02:06 PM crate training? #80099 - 07/26/2005 02:06 PM
Petra Simmons Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2005 Posts: 1 Loc: Offline	Hi, i just got a new chocolate lab puppy a couple of weeks ago.i read the article about the crate training and it has been working wonderful.Maddie sleeps through the night without any accidents. When I took her to the vet the other day I mentioned crate training to my veterinarian.She was very upset and accused me of animal abuse.I don`t leave my puppy(13weeks) in there for more than 3hrs,after she went outside I play with her for up to 1 hr before putting her back in it. So is crate training cruel???Will I mess up my puppies self esteem by putting her in the crate?Now after what that vet said I am having second thoughts. Petra
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/26/2005 02:26 PM Re: crate training? [Re: Petra Simmons ] #80100 - 07/26/2005 02:26 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Here's my opinion: Change vets. Immediately. And interview the next one BEFORE s/he treats your dog. Meanwhile, check out the books and the internet and see for yourself what size minority your vet is in. She's almost alone in that group. Do you know that dogs feel secure in den-like places, ASIDE from all the other MANY benefits to crate-training?
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Robert Passmore wrote 07/26/2005 02:35 PM Re: crate training? [Re: Petra Simmons ] #80101 - 07/26/2005 02:35 PM
Robert Passmore Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2003 Posts: 73 Loc: MI Offline	Petra I would never raise a puppy without a crate. They are essential. As your pup grows he will seek out the crate to lay down even with the door open. I am constantly amazed at some of the things people say their vet says but this might be the dumbest, ill-informed opinion yet. Keep doing what your doing and continue reading this board and learning. Good luck with your pup. Bob
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Roger Kutzler wrote 07/26/2005 02:50 PM Re: crate training? [Re: Petra Simmons ] #80102 - 07/26/2005 02:50 PM
Roger Kutzler Webboard User Reg: 03-03-2002 Posts: 178 Loc: Pocono Mountains, Pa Offline	"Change vets. Immediately. And interview the next one BEFORE s/he treats your dog." Ditto The only thing needed for evil to exist is for good men to stand by and do nothing!!!
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Anne Vaini wrote 07/26/2005 03:38 PM Re: crate training? [Re: Roger Kutzler ] #80103 - 07/26/2005 03:38 PM
Anne Vaini Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2005 Posts: 775 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	I agree!
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Ed Frawley wrote 07/26/2005 03:58 PM Re: crate training? [Re: Anne Vaini ] #80104 - 07/26/2005 03:58 PM
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001 Posts: 2112 Loc: Offline	This Vet has her head up her ass. find a new one. It only proves that there are very few vets(I have only met a couple in my life) that are good dog trainers. This one obviously is cluless. Thread closed. Frawley@leerburg.com http://www.leerburg.com
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