Thanks for clearing that up for me. It would still behoove you to teach him to out on command no matter what frame of mind he is in. Its a responsible thing to do for pit owners given the negative press on the breed.

Howard

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Thanks for clearing that up for me. It would still behoove you to teach him to out on command no matter what frame of mind he is in. Its a responsible thing to do for pit owners given the negative press on the breed.
Howard

Well I certainly agree all should be done to shadow the negative press for the breed. I know between Eds training resources and a couple of good K9 trainers it could be attempted. Here is my concern, Buddy is 7, he is bred to be handled with no aggression towards the handler when in an agitated state......how much intinctive behavior would need to be overcome to voice command him out of a scuffle? Any training is good and fun for these kind of dogs, they enjoy being worked, I guess I am just not sure that even if the training environment produced results the actual event such as the one I encountered, may not yield the training results. But this is certainly food for thought and I will consult with some APBT experts to get their thoughts as well. Thanks for the recommendation.

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By game bred I mean his blood line is from proven performance dogs, not conformation.

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Just out of curiosity, what does that mean? Were his parents fought against other pit-bulls?

From his pedigree, mostly hog dogs and pull dogs. He has crooked bottom teeth and his front paws tilt out slightly, he also has more skin around his neck than any good show stock...but he is one mighty powerful dog, has chased a cat 10 ft up a tree and at 7 yrs can run like he dosn't ever wanna quit....game bred.

How can your dog not be dog agressive if he is game bred? Game bred does not mean a performance dog, it means from fighting lineage. Gameness is the characteristic to never quit. This is the foundation of fighting dogs, they test their gameness by matching them against other dogs until one "turns", meaning quits. You can train game bred dogs in just about anything but because of their inherent tendency you can't always rely on them doing what they are told when you want. I have seen many trained in all sorts of dog sports and they are impressive but I think you would have a hard time reliably outing a true game bred pit verbally. As far as carrying a breaking stick, you are asking for trouble. Breaking sticks are used to remove one dog from the other while inflicting the least trauma. You can choke a dog off in the situation you described with no ill effects. You would not choke off a dog in the pit because it would put him at a disadvantage in the next scratch due to loss of breath and disorientation.
It seems like you did the right thing though. It's better to be proactive than to get your dog hurt by handicapping him.

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How can your dog not be dog agressive if he is game bred? Game bred does not mean a performance dog, it means from fighting lineage. Gameness is the characteristic to never quit. This is the foundation of fighting dogs, they test their gameness by matching them against other dogs until one "turns", meaning quits. You can train game bred dogs in just about anything but because of their inherent tendency you can't always rely on them doing what they are told when you want. I have seen many trained in all sorts of dog sports and they are impressive but I think you would have a hard time reliably outing a true game bred pit verbally. As far as carrying a breaking stick, you are asking for trouble. Breaking sticks are used to remove one dog from the other while inflicting the least trauma. You can choke a dog off in the situation you described with no ill effects. You would not choke off a dog in the pit because it would put him at a disadvantage in the next scratch due to loss of breath and disorientation.
It seems like you did the right thing though. It's better to be proactive than to get your dog hurt by handicapping him.

I never said my dog was not capable of demonstrating dog on dog aggression, obviously he is as Fridays scuffle indicates. I said he does not seem to bother much with other dogs and I have never really seen other dogs seriously challange him. My feeling is my dog would take a valuble long time to choke off, a break stick is much more expediant and effective. I fully understand what GAME means and if you travel back into ANY game bred APBTs pedigree you will find fighting dogs.....agree. But I guess we are going off topic here and I don't want to upset the Admins. I appreciate all the responses from the Police Officers I think it guided me to a good decision.......

You stated that your officer friend knows your dog is not animal agressive. Anyway, I didn't mean to side track your thread. I doubt anything will come of it. It doesn't sound like a very big deal, dogs get into scraps all the time. The only thing of note is they might say that because you carry a breaking stick you go to the park looking for a fight, besides you can choke a dog off in seconds. It's a shame that in our current society someone would be so concerned over litigation over something so minor. Good luck.