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[Re: jeff oehlsen ]
#86714 - 10/13/2005 11:30 AM |
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I was responding to someone else. And yes I am a working snob. I want working dog to have an important meaning and not be dropped into oblivion by the masses.
i agree with you. i think heelers and border collies and aussies should do the jobs they were bred for. same with gsd's and pyrenees, etc.
and what was the mastiff, a working breed, bred for? companionship and watchfulness. usually any pet home puts those qualities to good use. so, yes, he is a working dog in the very least in terms of what his breed is meant to do. and a whole lot more besides.
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Re: chicken aversion--anyone?
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#86715 - 10/13/2005 11:48 AM |
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Lets stay away from doggie semantics and stick to the topic. If someone searching for this problem 2 years from now wouldn't be interested in the definition of working, we have done the thread a disservice by allowing the wandering.
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Re: chicken aversion--anyone?
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#86716 - 10/13/2005 11:57 AM |
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good point, deanna.
does anyone else have anything to offer about the problem at hand?
it's seems to me there are these possibilities:
1. he has a health problem going on. (if so, why just with certain foods?)
2. there is a problem with the quality of the chickens.
3. he's developed a behavioral aversion, i.e. a negative association somehow with raw chicken.
4. he's spoiled.
which does it seem to you? any other ideas?
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Re: chicken aversion--anyone?
[Re: alice oliver ]
#86717 - 10/13/2005 12:36 PM |
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Have you tried using a different meat for a while, and then offering the chicken again? It could simply be that he's just tired of eating chicken. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Just a side note: It is not uncommon for dogs to fast themselves, and it's completely normal. My dog will sometimes go for 2 days without eating. One or two skipped meals isn't going to make him suddenly drop pounds or affect his overall condition or anything. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: chicken aversion--anyone?
[Re: alice oliver ]
#86718 - 10/13/2005 12:43 PM |
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....it's seems to me there are these possibilities:
1. he has a health problem going on. (if so, why just with certain foods?)
2. there is a problem with the quality of the chickens.
3. he's developed a behavioral aversion, i.e. a negative association somehow with raw chicken. 4. he's spoiled....
I didn't get a PM from you, so I don't know which note you mean. On the Giardia suggestion I PM'd: What I've read about the symptoms indicate that it's common for the affected dog to have little appetite and to be picky. That is, he might have so little appetite that he is eating only what he really loves. If chicken isn't in that category, he refuses it.
I don't mean that he must have an infestation; I mean just that becoming very picky about food is a common symptom.
You'll see it in the URL I sent you.
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#86719 - 10/13/2005 12:57 PM |
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connie, not only did i get your PM, i wrote you a long note in return. i wonder why you didn't get it?
anyway, he has zero symptoms for giardia, which is a disease very well known and quite common where i live. i doubt my vet would even test him, because he just doesn't have the symptoms. his stools are normal. sometimes they do smell bad, but it's usually right after he's had a veggie meal.
good try, though!
i am starting to wonder if he has worms. after getting your PM i decided i am going to pursue this further with his vet. the dog eats 5 lbs. of meat a day and you can still feel his spine. i don't think that is right.
i do think he has a touchy stomach, but he's always been that way.
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[Re: Kristen Cabe ]
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kristen, as i posted above, yes, i once stopped trying to feed him chicken for a while, and just gave him the foods he likes. he readily ate chicken for a while after that, so perhaps you are right, he's just bored with his diet.
i did notice his aversion got worse after hunting season and his supply of wild game was all eaten. he likes venison, elk, and antelope the best, and we had a great supply of it all last winter. when that was gone, his aversion to chicken seemed the most pronounced.
unfortunately i'm not going to be able to get him much wild game this year unless we go out and shoot a couple of deer ourselves. the meat processor in town got into trouble for illegally selling scrap to dog owners and now he is hostile to anyone who asks for it.
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Re: chicken aversion--anyone?
[Re: alice oliver ]
#86721 - 10/13/2005 01:40 PM |
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connie, not only did i get your PM, i wrote you a long note in return. i wonder why you didn't get it?..... he has zero symptoms for giardia, which is a disease very well known and quite common where i live. i doubt my vet would even test him, because he just doesn't have the symptoms....i am starting to wonder if he has worms. after getting your PM i decided i am going to pursue this further with his vet. the dog eats 5 lbs. of meat a day and you can still feel his spine. i don't think that is right.
I don't know why, but I didn't. I received 3 others, and I'm not overlimit.....maybe you accidentally logged off before sending....?
I thought that inability to gain weight and bad appetite were the primary symptoms. But it sounds like you and your vet know about Giardia, which is a parasite, so I will stop mentioning it!
I applaud your plan to pursue it with the vet. Coupled with the thinness, I don't think this sounds like spoiled, picky eating. Just MHO! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
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sometimes i forget that the things i write don't post immediately, and i think i'm seeing the post, not the preview, and then i log off without actually having sent it. probably that's what happened.
just for anyone who is interested in giardia, the primary symptoms of an infestation are usually severe intestinal cramps and violent, explosive diarrhea. it's not a subtle disease.
i am going to explore all the options with my vet, though. he did have hookworms as a pup and had similar symptoms at that time, come to think of it. maybe he has a very low grade infestation of something.
at least, i want to rule out health issues before deciding it's a behavioral problem.
thank you to everyone.
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