Has anyone ever had to use a forced bite? I had a very well known trainer tell me that I should put my dog on a table and use opposing pronges to force him to maintain a full grip. He bites full initially but then backs out to half grip. He continues to regrip to full and back out the entire time he is on the sleeve. The trainer said he is having trouble dealing with the pressure and can be taught that he can overcome this.
I got him at 9 months and he was biting a trial sleeve. He is now 27 months. Is it possible that this problem is due to the previous owners progressing him too fast in bite work?
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001
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Ken - your well known trainer is a dumb ass which is pretty well documented in the advice he offered. Too bad you did not mention his name. We dopnt talk about table training on my web board because it is abusive, its bad dog training, its a lazy mans way of training dogs and its stupid. Fourty years ago they chsined dogs up and hit them until they went into fight or flight - this is just a refiuned way of the same thing.
Go to the list of training articles on my web site. http://leerburg.com/articles.htm - there is an article I wrote on table training. You wont find any threads on this web board about it.
If you like your dog and want to maintain a relationship and a bond - walk away from these people - and please pass my opinion on to him - whoever he is.
Matt Hammond Webboard User Reg: 05-23-2004
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Ken you can achive a full bite by "streatching" the dog when he is on the bite. Meaning you hold the leash and you are a pole you do not move your helper well/should pull the dog out to the end of your leash on the bite. This is turn make the dog bite down. If he looses his grip after the intital grip then that is the time you do it as soon as he get on the sleeve. It will encourage your dog to bite down harder. When he is full slip the sleeve and run him in a circle. holding his head up. Have him out the sleeve and start again. It sounds like you will have to go back to the basics in bite work to get this fixed.
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